General Debate
I move, That the House take note of miscellaneous business.
Today, New Zealanders got some good news, and because I know that âChicken Littleâ and his friends over there will only ever tell New Zealanders that things are getting worse, I want to take this opportunity to tell them about a few things that are getting better.
It has been tough, Mr Speakerâit has been tough, my fellow colleagues. New Zealanders have been through the wringer. They endured a prolonged cost of living crisis, in which they watched while inflation went sky highâintergenerational highsâprices got away from them at the supermarket, with their electricity bills, and with their bills. They watched as their interest rates flew ever higher, and they watched the outlook get ever darker.
Today, it is good news to have confirmed inflation is under control, and it is set to remain under control. This is importantâyou can take it for grantedâbut opposite us are members who allowed inflation to get to 7.3 percent. Well, not on our watch; we will not countenance those sorts of price increases for New Zealanders.
More good news: since this Government was elected, we have now had 175 basis points of interest rate reductions for New Zealanders. And what does that mean? That means literally hundreds of dollars more in the bank accounts of people with mortgages. It means that businesses wishing to borrow face far lower costs. It means more cash flowing into our economyâliterally tens of millions of dollars more each week.
More good news: the growth outlook is forecast to accelerate this year. With thatâhereâs the piece of news that I was delighted to seeâunemployment is forecast not to get as high as it was when they left office. All in all, today is a day in which we can confirm that the direction this Government is taking New Zealand in has good signs ahead.
What I want you to do now, members, is imagine the alternative that that lot are painting you. I want you to think about this: first of all, I want you to imagine âMr Slowâ at the helmâKieran McAnulty. Now, the first thing heâs done, of course, is say, âSlow down those roads in the Wairarapa. We donât like that, itâs too unsafe.â Then his next job has been to sit down with his leadership council of the Green Party and Te PÄti MÄori.
He sits down with them all and he says to ChlĂśe Swarbrick, âNow, what should we do to help working New Zealanders?â She says, âWell, actually Kieran, I think itâs time for some degrowth Marxism, because, actually, this whole idea that we will create a productive economy is wrong, bunkum. Letâs give socialism a go.â
Kieran looks a little bit disturbed, so then he turns around and he says, âWell, what do you think, Debbie Ngarewa-Packer? What should we do?â She says, âNo, no, no, no, noâa $200 billion capital gains tax, thatâs what we need. We need to confiscate half of GDP to make working people better.â
Kieranâs confused at this point and heâs saying, âIâm not sure sheâs got her numbers quite right. So what do you think, Rawiri? Rawiri Waititi, whatâs your prescription for making New Zealand better?â And Rawiri says, âLook, to heck with this Parliament business, letâs put a dictator in charge and call him the Treaty Commissioner, and somehow thatâs going to make it all better.â
Of course, you know, this is a cloistered little group, this group of Kieran and his friends from Te PÄti MÄori and the Green Party. So along the corridor walks Helen White. Helen White says, âIâve got a copy of CapitalâIâve got a copy of Capitalâitâs by Thomas Piketty. David Parker gave it to me, and he said that this whole idea of a capital gains tax is wrong. What we need is a wealth tax.â And Ingrid Leary wanders along and she says, âYes, I think so too. I think thatâs a very good idea.â
Then what do we have? I think probably Duncan Webbâyouâd turn up in support of that too, wouldnât you?
So thereâs a little fight breaking out in the corridor between the capital gains tax folk and the wealth tax folk, but the one thing they can all agree on is this: Labourâs prescription for the economy is tax some more, borrow more, hire more public servants in Wellington, and somehow that will all trickle down to working New Zealanders being better off.
Well, I tell you this, Labour used to be the party for working people; it is now the party for taxing everything working people have worked for. New Zealanders whoâve done it tough can know things are getting better, and theyâthe Oppositionâwould put it all to waste and wreckage.
It appears the National Party have now given up on getting âback on trackâ and theyâve adopted a new slogan: âEveryone must go!â And it seems that Nicola Willis has led the charge, because before she stood up to speak the National Party backbench adopted that slogan and every one of them went. They werenât that interested in hearing what she has to say.
When it came to promoting tourism, theyâve adopted the slogan âEveryone must go!â They clearly didnât think that through. At a time when record numbers of New Zealanders are simply giving up and leaving the country, the Government adopting the slogan âEveryone must go!â is totally ham-fisted.
When the engineers are complaining that because the Government have stopped school rebuilding projects, theyâve stopped State house builds, theyâve stopped hospital upgrades, theyâve slowed down roading projects, theyâve scrapped water infrastructure upgrades, their compatriots are all leaving and going to Australia, what does the Government say to that? âEveryone must go!â That seems to be the answer.
When the health system is in crisis, the Government slogan seems to be: âEveryone must go!â The health leadership has to go: the board of Health New Zealand, the Chief Executive of Health New Zealand, the Director-General of Health, the Director of Public Healthânow even the commissioner that they appointed seems to have a dagger hanging over his head. Everybody must go.
They make it sound like New Zealand is in the clearance bin, as my colleague Cushla pointed out the other day, but what they have proven since they became the Government is that stringing together a bunch of slogans will not make up for the fact that they simply donât have a plan. They donât have any idea how theyâre actually going to turn around the fortunes of the country.
New Zealanders know that, while this Government are patting themselves on the back saying how wonderful everything suddenly is, Kiwi families are still going backwards. Life is still actually getting harder for New Zealand families. There are more Kiwi families with a parent whoâs unemployed today than there were at the last election, and that has happened under this Government.
Families still see their grocery bills going up each week under this Government. And letâs not forget power prices going up every month under this Government. People are still suffering under this Government. Things are getting harder for New Zealand families, and instead all theyâre getting from this Government is âIsnât it great? Isnât everything so much better?â It isnât better for New Zealand families. This Government pat themselves on the back while things get worse.
What is their solution to the big challenges facing the country? Well, they talk a big game on things like power prices, and yet they have done nothing. What has actually caused the growth in power prices? Well, hocking off half the power companies actually contributed to the current power crisis that weâre seeing at the moment, because those power companies decided to gouge more profits out of consumers rather than actually invest in new power generation. And whatâs their solution? Sell more! Everything must go! Everyone must go! Everything must go! That seems to be their new slogan.
More tough talk on supermarkets, but no real action. More tough talk on banks, but no real action. No actual solutions. Oh, and when it comes to people who are homeless living in emergency accommodation, it seems theyâve adopted the slogan âEveryone must go!â They donât seem to mind where they go as long as they leave emergency accommodation. If theyâre going to a car, thatâs OK. If theyâre going to sleep under a bridge, thatâs OK, as long as theyâre not in emergency accommodation. Emergency accommodation is not a solution, it is a stopgap measure while we build more houses, but theyâre not doing that any more either. They cancelled the new State house build programme when they became the Government, and all New Zealanders will pay the price for that.
Iâll tell you whoâs not going, though, and that is the Ministers who arenât living up to the standards that New Zealanders should be able to expect of their Government. We now have a future Deputy Prime Minister, someone surely to become Deputy Prime Minister, who thinks itâs OK for members of Parliament to interfere in murder investigations, who thinks itâs OK to drive a Land Rover up the front steps of Parliament, who thinks itâs OK to refer a victim of sexual abuse at the hands of that memberâs party president to a lawyer supplied by the party rather than to Victim Support or the Police. And thatâs OK under this Government.
New Zealanders already have seen enough of this Government to know that itâs not getting any better. Itâs no wonder that more than half the country thinks things are going backwards.
There you have it, what happens in the first year of Opposition when a former Prime Minister loses an election: you end up living in a twilight world where âNew Zealand was perfect, but we lost the election because New Zealanders didnât realiseâ. You know, if you listen to Chris Hipkins, everything they did was perfect, the country was wonderful, but Kiwis just didnât realise it when Labour lost the election. Iâve got to say, Chris Hipkins canât see what we see on this side of the House, which is the people sitting behind him, hollowly clapping from time to time, but waiting and biding their time.
He is rightâhe is rightâthat it is hard for New Zealanders; itâs tough for New Zealanders at the moment and the reason that it is tough for New Zealanders is six years of economic vandalism and mismanagement and creating rules and costs on New Zealanders to control every single part of their lives, because thatâs a Labour Party and a Government that thinks they know best. If only New Zealanders had realised it when they voted them out of office when Chris Hipkins was Prime Minister.
I want to thank wholeheartedly, on behalf of every single member of this coalition Government, every single man and woman in rural New Zealand who works hard every single day to help us fix the mess that we inherited from six years of economic vandalism and mismanagement from that Labour Government Chris Hipkins was a member of. The reason I want to thank them is they work hard every day, and they are the fabric of the good things that we know New Zealand is. Itâs good to see that actually they have their heads up because they recognise that through hard work you can get ahead in New Zealand.
I want to mention the Federated Farmers annual survey this week released the result that shows the highest result of confidence in a decade, and the greatest single increase in confidenceâof 68 points in the last 12 monthsâin the history of their survey. The reason our farmers are happy: not what Chris Hipkins said, not because the Government is patting ourselves on the back, but because we are recognising farmers work hard, we are recognising theyâre important, and we are helping and working with them to fix the rules that were holding them back, that were costing them, and that were putting them out of business and sending jobs and production overseas.
Itâs a long list of areas where farmers are feeling better, but theyâre feeling better because theyâre recognised for their hard work and they are producing the highest quality, the safest food, thatâs environmentally friendly as they look to meet and work to meet their emissions obligations. And they are selling it to the worldâconsumers recognise that itâs safe and that itâs high quality and that they want to buy it.
In that they have a Government, three parties in coalition, that 100 percent backs them and is working hard to get dumb Government rules off their backânot something Chris Hipkins talked about; farming was perfect under what Labour did over that six yearsâgetting that regulatory burden off their back so they can do what they do best: care about their animals, care about their land, innovate, be more productive, meet their obligations, and sell to the world. We will see over the next 12 months and next year that New Zealand farmers, with the Government, are working hard to restore the economy and provide greater income, more jobs, and a better standard and quality of life for every New Zealander, because of the hard work that they do.
Over the last 12 months, weâve undone more than 20 rules and regulations holding rural New Zealand back that were just the cost. A huge number of those were done when Chris Hipkinsâactually the whole timeâwas a Minister, and a lot of the time when he was the Prime Minister. We are looking for solutions and outcomes, not process and just costly mechanisms that make it harder to farm. We want them to produce more, and they should be proud of what they do, because we, as a Government, are proud of farmers. Weâre working with them, we trust them; they will meet their obligations in partnership with us. It does not have to be a fight, it does not have to be a war, because the war against farmers from Wellington is over, and weâre working hard to make sure we get Wellington out of farming.
The final thing I want to do is recognise the hard work of our lamb and wool farmers. Theyâre doing it harder than most at the moment. They have a very important future. Actually, this countryâs economy grew on the back of our lamb farmers. Weâve done a couple of trade deals in the Middle East where they will want this lamb because itâs high quality, it tastes good, and as I said last week, if you want to feel good, eat lamb. In fact, everybodyâeverybodyâshould be eating more lamb.
I rise to talk about an issue that is on every Kiwiâs mind: making our energy system actually work for Kiwis. First, I really want to congratulate the Minister Simon Watts for his elevation to energy Minister, because it is a positive sign that the Minister, in his new role, has made it clear that we need a market that works in the interests of New Zealanders. Kiwis have been taken for a ride for far too long. They want to see their electricity bills come down. Itâs the same story, whether itâs your home, your businesses, or regional manufacturing. We can begin the job by enabling innovation and competition in both generation and retail markets.
Last week, the Energy Competition Task Force, which is a task force thatâs jointly between the Commerce Commission and the Electricity Authority, made recommendations to support security of supply and affordability. Every home has energy assets that could be valued as a value stackâenergy stacked up that we can use creatively. They could be used to buy and sell their own electricity and in a market that enables participation and builds community resilience as climate change impacts become more extremeâthink solar panels and batteries on your homes; think fridges and freezers; think heat pumps, hot water, electric vehicles. We can harness all of those assets for effectively building resilience. Thereâs a wealth of potential to create an energy system fit for the 21st century. This tremendous opportunity exists right now.
Itâs in this House, with my Labour colleagues, my Te PÄti MÄori colleagues, and I know even across the House with National, with New Zealand First, and possibly even ACT, people understand that weâve got a broken electricity system and we need action. Step one is the Minister removing the unnecessary barrier that means our electricity systemâboth technology and marketsâwonât let Kiwis participate or make full use of distributed energy resources and intelligence. Weâve got a golden opportunity to fix things together. My bill, the Electricity Industry (Separation of Generation and Retail Businesses) Amendment Bill, is prepared and is in the ballot and can be acted on now by the Government if the Government wishes, and everyone seems to agree this is necessary.
We know the least-cost solutions to meet new demand are offshore wind and solar, according to the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment. With new wind and solar, along with geothermal, as increased supplies of baseload, we can use hydro power more effectively for peaking and for firming, removing thermal generation entirely.
Alongside a more intelligent use of our renewable assets, we can increase the warmth and benefit for Kiwi homes and families and whÄnau through an enriched Warmer Kiwi Homes programme while we replace fossil fuel transport to increase demand of the new renewables.
I pay attention to energy experts, as well as our Minister and our community, and what I hear is a desire for certainty and clarity in the decarbonisation journey. We need a delivery of the national energy strategyâand it would be good if it was bipartisan. It was supposed to be delivered last December. It would be good if it can be delivered in 2025. Iâll reach across the House to ask the Government to work on that together. We need delivery of a national policy statement for renewable electricity generation. It was supposed to be delivered in June 2024. Again, we have some expertiseâweâll reach across the House and help deliver itâbut it needs to be resourced. And we need delivery of an industrial strategy.
We can become an energy-sovereign nation with our wealth of wind, solar, hydro, geothermal. We can power our homes, our transport, and our industry without emissions. We can enable iwi and communities to own their own energy assets and keep that energy dollar localâlocal circulation. We can have cleaner, cheaper, and smarter power for everyone; we just need the political will.
Thank you, Mr Speaker. Iâve been looking forward to standing and speaking on some topics that New Zealand First are very strong on and are very committed to: fairness, safety, democracy, equality, and also freedom. Now, we have listened to the people, and we are delivering.
Let me first start on fairness and safety. We have had many people come to us with concerns about fairness and safety in womenâs sports. Womenâs groups, mothers, familiesâthey have been distressed, and for a very long time now we have listened to them. That is why the Rt Hon Winston Peters, in our coalition agreement, secured that publicly funded sporting bodies support fair competition that is not compromised by rules relating to gender. At the end of last year, the Minister for Sport and Recreation approached Sport New Zealand and asked that guidelines be reviewed and updated. Now, we see that this is something that we are delivering on.
Another topic that we are very committed to is democracy and peopleâs right to decide. Now, there are two areas that we have done work on. One of them is MÄori wards, and the other one is the fluoridation of our water. As per our coalition agreement, last year legislation was placed âto restore the right to local referendum on the establishment of ongoing use of MÄori wards.ââpromise delivered, along with our coalition partners.
Only last week, the Rt Hon Winston Peters met with a group of concerned people about the fluoridation of water. Over 20,000 people signed this petition, and we gladly accepted it because we believe in the right of people to have their say and to not be shut down. Also last week, New Zealand First submitted a memberâs bill. This memberâs bill will reinstate the fundamental right of communities to determine, through democracy, whether or not their water is fluoridated. New Zealand First will always remain firm on protecting our democracy and our freedom.
Let me now talk about freedom. When I talk about freedom, I think of phase two of the COVID inquiry. Now, the reason we have a phase two is because many people did not feel that they had the right to be heard. They felt gaslit, they felt shut down, and they were, and many feel that they still are. The New Zealand First people, we all listened to everyone who has come to us for many months now and expressed their concerns, which is why, back in July 2023, Mr Petersâonce again, a very busy leaderâcommitted, in WhangÄrei, that we would have the second COVID inquiry. He also committed that we would have wider terms of reference, which is what the people wanted. This was secured in the coalition agreement with our partners beside me here.
In phase two, we will be looking at things that people did not have a right or the freedom to speak up on: vaccine safety and efficacy, the mandates, the lockdowns in Auckland. We were all locked down for many months. All of these things will be discussed, and people who are feeling still that they are unheard will have the opportunity to share the trauma that many have shared with me. I still continue to speak with many who are vaccine injured, and they share the trauma that they feel. They are too scared to actually sometimes write down on paper what it is that they are still suffering from. It is important that we listen. Someone has to listen, and New Zealand First will continue to listen and be a voice for those who feel that they do not have a voice.
Thereâs another area that New Zealand First have been listening to concerned parents and concerned groups about: what is being taught in schools. We were shocked to hear some of the things that parents were going through, and no one would listen. So we had to listen. That is what a democracy is all about. We need to listen to all New Zealanders. Everyone has equal rights to be heard. That is why, in the coalition agreement, we secured to refocus the curriculum on academic achievement and not ideology, including the removal and replacement of gender, sexuality, and relationship-based education guidelines. This is another promise that we are delivering on. All people need to be heard.
Also, I just want to say that we will always listen to all New Zealanders. Common sense will prevail. Democracy, freedom, safety, and equalityâthis is what we will always stand for. Thank you, Mr Speaker.
E te MÄngai o te Whare, thank you for giving me the chance to have a few words and make a few observations on going for growth, economic growth, and how we can go for growth with, for, and alongside MÄori. Itâs a key facet and foundation for ensuring that New Zealandâs economic development and economic story are not only accelerated but catalysed.
Weâve got to pick up those economic challenges as a Government, but also facing many, many MÄori communities, to ensure that we accelerate and supercharge the economy. Itâs my very strongly held view that without realising the potential of te ao MÄori and MÄori people and MÄori communities and iwi and MÄori organisations, weâre never going to achieve the leading small advanced nation that the Prime Minister has so carefully articulated over the last 15 months.
The first pillar for doing that is making sure we recognise talent and encourage talent and develop talentânot just that talent thatâs out there at Te Puni and St Stephenâs and sometimes across the other side, but recognise the youth of our population, knowing that over the last 10Â years thereâs been a growth of nearly 50 percent of the total MÄori population in this country. Thatâs absolutely phenomenal. That upward trajectory, actually, if we support it carefully, if we facilitate opportunities carefully, is going to create a huge ballast for the nationâs economic growth. You canât have economic growth without social growth and without cultural growth. Those things, in my world, come together very carefully. Thatâs why itâs my great privilege to be the Minister of various matters.
Whilst the average age of the PÄkehÄ or European population in New Zealand is around 42, the average age of MÄori is between 27 and 28. That points to us and says, actually, youâve got to invest very, very prudently and very reasonably. I acknowledge Minister Stanford for her mahi around a MÄori education plan and rolling out the Te Marautanga o Aotearoa curriculum, rolling out structured literacy and numeracy resources in te reo MÄori, and really being focused on ensuring both attendance and achievement across MÄori students, no matter whether or not they are in kura kaupapa or MÄori medium education but also mainstream education.
Ko te kai a te manu e kai nei i te miro, nĹna te ngahere, ko te manu e kai nei i te mÄtauranga, nĹna te ao.
[The bird that consumes the miro berry has the forest. The bird that consumes education has the whole world.]
That bird that participates in the miro berry has a great time in the forest, but that bird that participates in education has a variety of global experiences and opportunities available to him and her.
Not only that, MÄori land and the development of MÄori resources are also a massive challenge upon us. Thereâs a lot of regulatory molasses that affects MÄori freehold land, which comprises around 5 percent of the total land of New Zealandâ1.5 million hectares of this country. Some of our challenges include ensuring that we have greater equality for our people to actually develop our land.
I heard a submission the other day in the Treaty principles submission hearings about how it takes 26 steps to get an easement for MÄori land but it only takes about five steps to get an easement on general land. That is absolutely a stunning example of where we can improve some of the regulatory burdens that continue to confront the development of MÄori land. We need to get to that because the productive capability of MÄori land, if we realised that, can create billions of dollars of extra revenue for our whÄnau and for our communities.
Promoting trade and investment: well, we heard from Minister âTrade McClayââI mean Todd McClayâwho was here early on, who has been absolutely instrumental in driving international trade deals to enable massive exporters, including MÄori businesses like some of those that we heard from today at the Ahuwhenua awards announcements, Whangaroa Ngaiotonga, and also Tawapata South in the primary sector, but others like Tuaropaki, whoâs partnering with Obayashi in producing hydrogen down in the middle of the central North Island, and of course Waikato-Tainui and their hotels out at the Auckland Airport with Accor. That notion of promoting trade and investment and getting our MÄori businesses and folks out there is absolutely important.
There are massive confronting issues for many of our communities. I just think about Tokoroa, for example, and we need to ensure that we provide the necessary support. My tuakana from the member from Waiariki mentioned before the unemployment rate of MÄori being around 10 percent. Of course the youth NEET rate is absolutely massive, particularly in places like Henderson and West Auckland. Somehow we need to tilt some of our mahi to ensure we give them the experiences, and part of that involves supporting wÄnanga like Te WÄnanga o Aotearoa, but actually our own wÄnanga as well, whether or not thatâs Puanga, te Tai-o-Rongo, or other wÄnanga that we have ourselves.
Infrastructure: if we get the infrastructure right for MÄori communities, not just driving infrastructure without peopleâs consent but get that moving, weâre going to be in a far better place. Thatâs why Iâm a massive supporter of investment in MÄori organisations to deliver social infrastructure like housing, and Iâm sure there are other infrastructures, like roads, car parks, health organisations, that we can be involved in too. Kia ora tÄtou katoa. MÄori economic growth.
Before I call the next member, can I just say to members down at the back of the House having conversations, itâs not permitted to do that. Thereâs been too much of it this afternoon. Donât do it any longer. Also, conversations among members need to be kept as soft as possible so that those speaking arenât interrupted.
Thank you, Mr Speaker.
SPEAKER: No problem.
Hon Dr DEBORAH RUSSELL: That is a Government full of facile slogans and empty rhetoric. It has words, saying, âGrowth, growth, growthâ. It says it wants growth. It tries to sell growth. But, frankly, it is a cargo-cult Government. It thinks if it says the words, then it will just happen. What are their big ideas about getting growth growing in our economy? Import some rich people from overseasâand thatâs it. That is it. Thatâs the way theyâre going to try to accelerate growth in this country.
What is their other big idea? Theyâre going to have a slogan saying, âEveryone will go.â Do you know who theyâve been telling to go in this economy? They have been telling scientists to go. That is the people that they have been telling to go. If we want growth in this economy, it needs to be strong and sustainable. It needs to last for a long time. It needs to come from our innovation, not from rhetoric. Theyâve talked a big game about supporting science in this country, but what have they actually done?
The science sector is in turmoil. One estimate from our own sciences is that around about 500 jobs have been lost in science since that Government came to passâ500 jobs across all parts of the science sector, some in science, some in NIWA, some in the Department of Conservation, some in the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment, some in the Ministry for Primary Industries. There is still no Chief Science Advisor for the Government. They do not value science. Itâs all words, but nothing actually happening.
Theyâve cut research funds for science, got rid of the National Science Challenges, got rid of the blue-sky element of the Marsden funding, and, while theyâre at it, they knifed the humanities in the back. Then they said that their big idea was to reform the science system, and they had some grand ambitions for that reform of the science sector. They said that high-performing science and tertiary sectors are vital parts of the Governmentâs plan to rebuild the economy, but what have they done?
Well, when the Science System Advisory Group reported back, it advised that perhaps the science sector should be restructured and restructured into public research organisations. It said also that Callaghan Innovation should be disestablished and some parts of its activities would go to other parts of the science system. We donât quite know where yet or how thatâs going to happen, but itâs going to happen, they tell us, and three new public research organisations are to be set up by some time in 2026.
Then they did something else with Callaghan Innovation. The new Minister sent a letter of expectations, and said, âHereâs some activities which will be hived off to various parts of the science system.â Then there was to be funding for innovation, for the Food Network, for the Measurement Standards Laboratory, but everything else that Callaghan Innovation was to do, all other activities, hereâs the exact words from the Ministerâs letter of expectations: âany other activities beyond this will no longer be funded from 30 June 2025â.
What does that mean? No new science organisations until 2026; funding for activities at Callaghan to stop by 30 June 2025; science activities to stopâthatâs 60 to 70 scientists whose jobs are going at Callaghan Innovation. Those are the scientists who work doing actual scienceâindustrial science for businesses who canât afford it themselves, who canât afford a huge science infrastructure, but they contract into Callaghan Innovation. Those are the scientists who do actual physics, actual chemistry, actual industrial research for businesses. Theyâre not going to be funded beyond June this year.
Those scientists have no option but to look for employment elsewhere, and, in many cases, itâs looking to go overseas because there is no funding for science in New Zealand. We are losing our scientists, and that is the action of that Government that says it values scientists. They might say that, but that doesnât actually happen. The reality is that funding for science is going. What does that say to children who might be interested in a career in science, technology, engineering, and mathematics? That is a Government that has, through its science activities, shown a callous disregard for people, a callous disregard for businesses, and a callous disregard for science in New Zealand.
Thank you very much, Speaker. Never let it be forgotten in this House or across the nation that that member whoâs just resumed her seat, Deborah Russell, was part of the failed last administration that led our country into the financial abyss that we find ourselves in today, and that this coalition Government, supported, led, by National, ACT, and our partners in New Zealand First, is getting New Zealand back on track, getting the economy growing again, and getting the cost of living under control.
Now, in the beautiful Coromandel, weâve had a pretty good summer, I have to say. I was just thinking, reflecting on it, that itâs almost exactly two years to the week that we were impacted, as were so many other parts of the North Island, by Cyclone Hale, initially, and then Cyclone Gabrielle. Two years ago, our roads were closed, communities were cut off, telecommunications werenât working, and people in my part of the world were doing it very, very tough. Two years on, Iâm very pleased to say things have changed: weâve got a new Government. Thatâs, of course, a great source of jubilation and happiness across the Coromandel, as it is across the rest of the country.
Just to give the House an indication of how well weâve been doing in the Coromandel over the summer, thereâs analysis of data that was produced by an organisation that was analysing ANZâs domestic tourism spending from mid-December last year to mid-January this year. Iâm delighted to report to the House that in fact it was the Thames-Coromandel area that had the highest level of domestic tourism spending over that summer period. We knocked outâand this is no offence to my good colleagues in Northlandâwe knocked out Northland and we knocked out the Queenstown Lakes area.
It wasnât just the quality of parliamentary representation that made people want to come to the Coromandel; it was just the beautiful beaches, the lovely nature, the beautiful bush, and the wonderful opportunity to spend a classic summer in New Zealandâs summertime holiday capital. There are many, including people who preside over this House, who visited the Coromandel recently, and they got an opportunity to see it. In fact, over the summer there are often more MPs in the Coromandel than there are on some sitting days in this House, and thatâs all for good cause.
On both a micro and a macro level, things are happening and are reflected in my electorate that are reflected around the rest of the nation. Letâs just think about some of that stuff for a moment. Today, we had the announcement at 2 oâclock that the Reserve Bank had decided to drop the OCR by 50 basis points. Thatâs very, very good news. Most people will be thinking, well, what does that mean in real terms, to themselves? Well, for people in the Coromandel who have mortgages, people anywhere in the country who have mortgages, thatâs really good news because what it means is that interest rates will drop again, and theyâll have more discretionary dollars in their pocket to help them counter the cost of living crisis that our Government has inherited from the last lot. Thatâs good news.
Thatâs kind of at a macro level, but what about some of the stuff that this Government is doing at a micro level, that actually might seem relatively small to many people but actually has a big impact. I wanted to citeâthere was a very good question today asked in question time about the impact of a consultation document on changing the time frame for renewing warrants of fitness and certificates of fitness on motor homes and vintage cars.
Now, in the Coromandel we have a great thing called Beach Hop; it happens every March. Weâre having the 25th anniversary Beach Hop this year. About 100,000 people arrive in WhangamatÄ and they bring with them their classic cars, their vintage cars, their caravans, their motor homes and what have you. Now, those sorts of people, if this consultation paper goes through, are going to benefit by having a reduced cost on renewing their warrants of fitness and their certificates of fitness. Thatâs a small thing, but itâs a good thing, and itâs how this Government is adopting an approach to red tape, to rules and regulations that are unnecessary and that are slowing our economy down.
The message that this Government has is weâre going for growth. Weâve got to get the economy growing and thriving again so that we can afford all the resources, all the investment that we want in a First World nation: into health, into education, into police, into defence, into all those things that New Zealanders want for our country. Ours is a Government thatâs clearly focused on thatâthatâs going to be our primary goal over the next 12 months. Getting the country back on track in a way that has been helped today by the OCR is great news.
Thank you very much, Mr Speaker, and I commend the member whoâs just resumed his seat for a great speechâalthough itâs not too hard to explain the beauty of the Coromandel. Itâs a stunning part of the country and very well represented by Scott Simpson. I think we need to talk more about the real New Zealand, about the people up and down this country who actually make it tick, the challenges they face, and the effort that the Government is making to hear their concerns and fix them.
Today, we saw a 50 basis point cut in the official cash rate by the Reserve Bank of New Zealand. Now, the Reserve Bank is independent; the Government did not make them do that, but the Government did create the conditions for an official cash rate cut. The Government created the conditions for that cut that will allow the banks to lend money at lower rates. Itâs not just to people with mortgagesâalthough thatâs really importantâitâs also to people on farms; itâs also to people with small businesses, who need working capital to get through the week and pay the wages to the people who depend on them, so they can keep serving their customers. Itâs the people that actually make this country what it is by taking the effort to build a home and raise a family. Those people are going to get cheaper access to loans because of todayâs cut.
I said the Government didnât make the Reserve Bank do it, but we created the conditions. How did we do that? Well, a problem defined is a problem half-solved, so it might help to understand why the interest rates were so high. Thatâs pretty simple: at the heart of it, we had a Government for too long that created too much money and ended up producing too few goods. They spent billions and billions and billions that they couldnât afford. All the while, they locked down the borders, locked people in their homes, and put oodles of new rules and regulations that stopped people producingâlots of Government cash sloshing around, driving up the prices, and lots of red tape restraining the people who are trying to produce stuff to buy. If thereâs more money hanging around than there is stuff to buy, then the prices go up. Thatâs what has been hammering New Zealanders for the last four years, until finally we got inflation under control.
When inflation gets out of control, what does the Reserve Bank do? They put the interest rates up, and that forces up the mortgage rates and the business loans and the farm loans. And why were they doing that? Because the Government was spending so much that it had to rein in money from somewhere, and the Reserve Bank reined it in from the people who try and make this a great country every day. By restraining our own spending, by cutting waste, by getting rid of red tape, we have taken the problem that the last Government defined for us, and we have reversed it. That 50 basis point cut today by the Reserve Bank represents money coming out of the Government columnâless waste, less spending, less inflation, less red tapeâand put into the hands of the people who work hard to earn it and make this country work every day.
Itâs that simple. People use all these terms: OCR, basis point, Reserve Bank, fiscalâwhatever. At the end of the day, what is happening here in New Zealand is that weâve got a Government that understood what the other guys did wrongâthey spent too much and they tied us up in red tapeâand then we thought, âIf thatâs the problem, weâre going to run as hard as we can in the opposite direction.â Weâre going to cut the waste. Weâre going to do things smarter and more affordable. Weâre going to deliver the same services, and yet weâre going to spend less money. Thatâs going to take pressure off inflation, thatâs going to take pressure off interest rates, and that allows something that is much more important. Thatâs what itâs all about.
It allows New Zealanders, no matter who they might be or when they might have come hereâwhether it was a waka, a sailing ship, or a 747âto actually have a chance in this life to use their time on Earth to make the most of their life, to make a difference in their life, to be able to celebrate their successes and be accountable for their failures. In other words, it allows New Zealanders freedomâfreedom to choose how their own life story turns out without excessive hectoring, lecturing, and waste from a Government. Thatâs why Iâm proud to stand in this House representing the ACT Party. Thatâs why Iâm proud to be in a coalition with National and New Zealand First that is bringing about these values, because we are creating a free society where New Zealanders can be their best. Thank you, Mr Speaker.
TÄnÄ rÄ koe e te PÄŤka, otirÄ tÄnÄ rÄ tÄtau e te Whare. E tĹŤ ana ahau ki te waha i ngÄ kĹrero mĹ te PÄti MÄori i te rangi nei.
[Greetings, Mr Speaker, that is, greetings to us all in the House. I stand to present the views of Te PÄti MÄori today.]
Before I start, I want to make one thing very clear: takatÄpui are our whÄnau. In the recent events we have witnessed following Pride week, we saw our takatÄpui communities being devastatingly targeted for simply being themselves. Our taonga MÄori, like haka, should never be used as a weapon against our own peopleâ
Hon David Seymour: Point of order, Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, I always hesitate to interrupt a memberâs speech, but this memberâs been here for six months now. I understand thereâs a rule against reading a speech; you should be able to just give one by this point.
SPEAKER: There is a provision that members donât read speeches, but there is also a convention that speakers may refer to notes in front of them. There would be very few members in the House who have, perhaps, the expertise that the member who raised the point has that would enable them to speak without those notes.
HANA-RAWHITI MAIPI-CLARKE: That side just loves me, donât they, Mr Speaker? Any little thingâfrom my stickers, to my shoes, to whatever it is. They love it! They just keep picking, and, honestly, it doesnât do them any favours. But talking to the pointâ
SPEAKER: Hang on. There is so much noise going on in the House, Iâm having trouble listening to the person who is speaking. I think I just missed something that I shouldnât. Could we stop having this across-the-House conversation. Itâs not acceptable. Hana, please continue.
HANA-RAWHITI MAIPI-CLARKE: Thank you, Mr Speaker. Reflecting backâand they were only just notes to reaffirmâon such an important kaupapa like our takatÄpui communities being devastatingly targeted over the weekend, the immense disappointment and heartbreak that I felt as a young wahine MÄori to see this.
Now, I am not able to speak on behalf of takatÄpui communities, but it should be my responsibility to advocate for and stand up for our takatÄpui community. I think of the way they were barricaded and pushedâthis is not how you protest; this is not how you advocate for something. What even are you protesting about? Someone simply being themselves.
I want to mihi and reflect on some of the takatÄpui that I know, such as the magnificent Pere WihongiâI mean, isnât he just absolutely amazing in the way that heâs constructed our taonga tuku iho mÄtauranga MÄori in a way that my generation can benefit and flourish from? There are so many takatÄpui who have been so instrumental and educational in my life that Iâd like to acknowledge.
Throughout our Polynesian whakapapa, our takatÄpui whÄnau have always been accepted and have always acknowledged our differences, even more so throughout Te Moana-nui-a-Kiwa, being held on a pedestal of an example of a mÄhĹŤ in Hawaii. We each come with our own whakapapa and our own genealogy and our own identities, but, at the end of the day, we are all whÄnau.
It was colonisation that started criminalising and oppressing our people for being simply who they are. We must speak up. We must ask ourselves what allyship looks like when it comes to amplifying the rights and voices of our takatÄpui community. Fighting for our rights as indigenous peoples means we must fight for all rights of oppressed communities.
During the campaign trail for 2023, during my first debate, I had never experienced discrimination and hate like I did when I stood up for takatÄpui communities in my debates. It was an extreme wake-up call for myself, instantly realising my privilege as a straight wahine. I say to our people: donât let your fear from lack of understanding drive you to discriminate against our own whÄnau. Itâs our job to tautoko and awhi our takatÄpui communities.
Iâd, finally, like to say to any takatÄpui community person listening to me in the House or outside of the House: we hear you, we see you, we love you, and we appreciate you. With the platform that I have on social mediaâif any rangatahi are listening to me now, and if you have had any self-doubt or mental health hardships after watching the recent events, please go to the ME Family Services and OutLine Aotearoa if you are struggling with anything that you have witnessed over the week, where they can help and facilitate any awhi or tautoko that you might need. TÄnÄ rÄ koe e Te PÄŤka.
Thank you, Mr Speaker. Well, itâll be no surprise to anybody that I want to talk about growth, and economic growth, and what it means for this country. New Zealand has huge potential. We are fantastic. Weâve got the best global connections coming together now with our free-trade agreements. We are the world-class innovators; remember it was we in New Zealand that split the atom. We feed the world; weâve got the worldâs best farmers. And we want a stronger, wealthier, more resilient country and economy, because that will bring more jobs, more opportunities, more people starting their businesses in our country, and more innovation. That is what leads to growth. That all leads to more jobs.
I want to talk about infrastructure and jobs. New Zealand is doing it tough out thereâwe know thatâand, in my part of the world, the cost of living bites hard every single day, but we donât get economic growth by taxing people more. In fact, once, the very effervescent Winston Churchill said, âTrying to tax your way out of prosperity is like standing in a bucket and trying to lift it up by the handles.â And heâs quite right. We have to run this economy well, we have to get it charged up, and we have to get it going, and weâre doing that. I mean, you will have noticed interest rates are down 50 basis points again today. What a great result. We have inflation down. We are putting more money in peopleâs pockets so they can spend that money.
Now let me just talk about two things that relate to thatâinfrastructure first. Good infrastructure is the backbone of the New Zealand economy. Itâs what gets us around. Itâs what transports our goods and services and people up and down this country. What great news it was for the people of TairÄwhiti and Hawkeâs Bay and Wairoa to have the announcement just last week, on the second anniversary of Cyclone Gabrielle, that this Government has put its money where its mouth is. It is funding the Waikare Gorge realignment, which is a massive project. I donât know if youâve seen the virtual thing on Facebookâon social mediaâbut that realignment means everything to the economic future and sustainability of regions like TairÄwhiti and Wairoa.
It is the one road that took everything out. When Cyclone Gabrielle hit two years ago, the time from my house to Napier increased from 2½ hours to 3½ hours, overnight, like that, but that was only after the Bailey bridge was put in. Prior to that, we had the circuitous route of going via ĹpĹtiki, Murupara, TaupĹ, and back to Napier to get to Hawkeâs Bayâsix hours on a good day if you didnât stop for a cup of tea along the way. It just strikes me that that is the absolute answer: the infrastructure for our economy means everything. If we canât get people up and down that road, if we canât get the goods and services in and out, if we canât get the tourists up and down the country, and we canât get the students back to school and back to university, then weâre really going to struggle to get anywhere. Reliable, economic, and efficient; thatâs what it has to be.
What does infrastructure do for us? Well, it brings jobs. If weâre going to build infrastructure and weâre going to get foreign investment and weâre going to do all of these things, how does that relate back to what it means for Mr and Mrs Joe Bloggs in New Zealand? Well, Iâll tell you. It makes business confidence go up. The economic growth will put the business confidence up. The inflation and interest rates are down.
What happens to Jimmy? Jimmy is on his jobseeker benefit in Gisborne. Heâs there, heâs earning $300 a weekâwell, heâs not earning $300 a week: heâs getting $300 a week on the jobseeker benefit. Business confidence has gone up, inflation has come down, interest rates have come down, and guess what? The businesses thought it was all good, so one of them came into town and bought a mill, and then all of a sudden there are something like 300 or 400 jobs available. Jimmy got a job, he went to work, and instead of earning 300 bucks on his jobseeker benefit, he now earns more than twice that after tax. Not only has he got more money but heâs got some self-esteem back, heâs got a few more skills, heâs got some opportunities, heâs got a reason to get up in the morning, and he has opportunities that he didnât have before.
If you think about thatâjust extrapolate that out a little bit. For every Jimmy, thatâs about $15,500 a year we pay in the jobseeker benefit for Jimmy. Thatâs not a lot, I accept that. But for every thousand Jimmies, thatâs $15 million. And for every 10,000, thatâs $156 million that, if we arenât paying jobseeker benefits because weâve had growth, weâve got more jobs and opportunities, we can spend on everything that the Opposition tell us we need to: health, education, housing, infrastructureâall of the things you want. Thatâs what we need in this country: more growth, because thatâs where the answer is. Thank you.
Thank you, Mr Speaker. Under this Government, we are seeing patients being denied the healthcare they need and should have access to, with devastating consequences. In Nelson today, thereâs been a story on the front page of the Nelson Mailâof one of my constituentsâof one of the most horrific examples of this happening. It is the case of Daniel Walker, who is being treated for testicular cancer at Nelson Hospitalâand I do note a couple of giggles across the other side, which is not appropriate.
In June of last year, Mr Walker was referred to Nelson Hospital by his GP for suspected testicular cancer. The referral was urgent and he was supposed to be seen within a two-week time frame, but in fact it took nine weeks for Mr Walker to be seenânine weeks. His clinician wrote in his files, âI saw Daniel in clinic today. He was appropriately referred in late June, and his triage was accepted on 27 June as a two-week-wait patient. Unfortunately, he has waited for significant time to come through to clinic.â It goes on to say, âI have requested urgent staging with a CT chest, abdomen, pelvis, and I have placed him on my theatre list for tomorrow. The urologist was so concerned, she said he needs to be seen tomorrow.â
The urologist was concerned about the delay and encouraged Mr Walker to seek financial support through ACC. In September, she wrote, âI have also completed ACC treatment injury paperwork for Daniel today. Itâs possible that his disease has become metastatic, or certainly that the metastatic disease has worsened, during his wait time.â The clinician is of the view that it is very likely that Mr Walkerâs cancer spread because of this massive delay in him being seen. What is even more concerning is that in the initial communication to ACC, Nelson Hospital said that the reason for the delay was because of clinician shortages. It wasnât until Mr Walker, on the advice of his excellent case worker at ACCâwho is a hero and deserves a medal, who advised him to come to my office and advised him to go to the Health and Disability Commissioner (HDC)âwent through the HDC process that Nelson Hospital finally admitted there had actually been a change to his medical records. A change to his medical records, which had initially said it was an urgent, urgent, suspected high-grade cancerâdown to a painless right testicular lump.
How on earth did this happen? We are asking these questions of Te Whatu Ora. We expect answers as to what happened, and steps to be taken so that this does not happen again. One of the questions that we need answered is why was his clinical status downgraded in the system? Why did this happen after the two-week wait period that he should have been seen in had well and truly passed? It didnât happen within it; it happened after those two weeks had passed. Someone went in and downgraded it in his file. Why did Te Whatu Ora originally tell ACC the delay was due to clinical capacity? It led to a declined ACC claim, and significant financial strain for Mr Walker, who had to go on to a jobseeker benefit even though he has a job. The man has a job and he had to go on to a jobseeker benefit and take $10,000 out of his KiwiSaver because of financial hardship.
The biggest question is: what was going on inside Te Whatu Ora in Nelson in terms of their ability to hire more urologists? Were they actively seeking a locum urologist, or were they affected by the removal of their approval to approve recruiting at a local level? The timing lines up, and this is a critical question. Why did they not have enough urologists? Were they actively recruiting? Had they been given that approval to do so? These are the questions that we will be asking of Te Whatu Ora and of the Minister. This operational issue has led to a most horrific situation. It has led to a man having a terrible cancer diagnosis that will have devastating consequences. It is an example of how this coalition of cuts is taking New Zealand backwards, and how peopleâs lives, like Mr Walkerâs, are being put at risk as a result. Thank you, Mr Speaker.
The debate having concluded, the motion lapsed.