Oral Questions
1. to the Minister of Justice: Does he stand by the Governmentâs policy to ban enrolments in the final 13 days before an election, despite the Attorney-General warning that more than 100,000 people may be directly or indirectly disenfranchised by this proposal?
Thank you for the question. The answer is yes, and Iâve got every confidence that New Zealanders have the capability of responding to a change in the signal that is sent. Theyâve got a year to get enrolled, and Iâve got every confidence that they will be able to get enrolled 13 days before the election.
Oriini Kaipara: What impact will the prisoner voting ban have on wÄhine MÄoriâMÄori womenâwho are one of the most over-incarcerated groups in the world?
Hon PAUL GOLDSMITH: Well, if theyâre imprisoned for more than three years currently, they donât have a vote. After the legislation is passed, if theyâre imprisoned after the passing of that legislation for less than three years, they will lose their vote. Thatâs about sending a clear message to those who are victims of crime that we take that seriously and there are consequences for crime, and one of those consequences is temporarily losing oneâs vote while one is in prison.
Oriini Kaipara: Does the Minister dispute evidence that shows that denying prisoners the right to vote undermines rehabilitation goals, increases social exclusion, and, ultimately, increases the risk of offending?
Hon PAUL GOLDSMITH: Well, of course, I tend to think more about the needs of the victims of crime who are trying to put their life together after having been bashed or stolen or murdered, or the many other victims of crime that live in this country. Look, we have a robust, strong democracy. There are many countries around the world that have various restrictions on prisoners voting. Currently, it is the law that if youâre in prison for three years or more, you lose your vote. We are extending that earlier, and we think thatâs fully justified.
Oriini Kaipara: Does his Government truly care about democracy, or do they only care about democracy when it can beâ[Interruption]
SPEAKER: No, hang onâwait on.
Oriini Kaipara: âweaponised against MÄoriâ[Interruption]
SPEAKER: Sorry, stop there.
Oriini Kaipara: âsuch as when they remove the MÄori wardsâ
SPEAKER: Stopâstop. The House will listen to a question in silence. Start again.
Oriini Kaipara: TÄnÄ koe, Mr Speaker. Does the Ministerâs Government truly care about democracy, or do they only care about democracy when it can be weaponised against MÄori, such as when they removed MÄori wards, dismantled co-governance, and introduced the Treaty principles bill?
SPEAKER: OK, that question should be ruled out because it doesnât comply with the requirements of the Standing Orders. However, in so much as the Minister is able to make a statement, he can.
Hon PAUL GOLDSMITH: Well, I can assure the House that this Government does care about democracyâvery much so. The good news about democracy is that Governments are held to account, and we are perfectly willing to put our record before New Zealanders, particularly in the justice space, where weâve seen 38â[Interruption]
SPEAKER: Just a moment. Things have to settle down. There are people just yelling for no particular purpose. Theyâre not interventions; they are just boorish barracking, and itâs got to stop. The Minister will briefly end his answer.
Hon PAUL GOLDSMITH: Well, I was just continuing about the virtues of democracy and the accountability and where we lay our performance before the people of New Zealand at the next election, and weâre very proud of the progress that weâve made on many fronts.
Hon David Seymour: Can the Minister confirm that itâs actually a legal obligation to be enrolled to vote with an up-to-date address from the age of 18â[Interruption]
SPEAKER: Noâsorry, Minister Seymour. Someone called out then and interjected while a question was being asked. The question can be asked again, and you will be given the silence of the House.
Hon David Seymour: Can the Minister confirm itâs actually a legal obligationâone of the few blanket obligations that the law places on all New Zealandersâto be enrolled to vote with an up-to-date address from the age of 18 and so it shouldnât be much of a problem to be enrolled 13 days before an election, and, if so, does he believe that New Zealanders of all races are equally capable of fulfilling this basic requirement?
Hon PAUL GOLDSMITH: Yes, and yes. I have always been troubled by a particular party claiming that their voters are disadvantaged by any changes, which would imply that their voters are less capable than other voters of getting themselves enrolledâwhich is a strange way to talk about your voters.
Question No. 2âEconomic Growth
2. to the Minister for Economic Growth: What recent changes has the Government made regarding economic growth and supermarket competition?
Last night, the Government passed amendments to the Fast-track Approvals Act. The changes streamline the fast-track process, making it more efficient and delivering important projects that will grow the economy. The changes also promote greater competition in the supermarket sector by speeding up consent and approval processes to get a new supermarket open. The Government is serious about lifting economic growth and getting a better deal for Kiwi shoppers. Our fast-track changes do both of those things.
Dr Vanessa Weenink: Why did the Government make changes to support supermarket competition?
Hon NICOLA WILLIS: We heard loud and clear from a range of people that standard resource consent processes can hold new supermarkets back and tie them up in red tape for years. Restrictive zoning, slow consenting, and cumbersome regulations have caused widespread frustrations that have seen less choice and higher prices for Kiwi shoppers because of a lack of competition. The fast-track process will shorten the time required to gain consent for a new supermarket to just a few months, increasing grocery competition. This is good news for shoppersâitâs about saying yes.
Dr Vanessa Weenink: What else is the Government doing for supermarket competition?
Hon NICOLA WILLIS: The Governmentâs focus is on regulatory enforcement and structural areas. Our work includes improving the Overseas Investment Act to better support grocery investments and amending the Commerce Act to better combat predatory pricing. We are also looking to trial the use of digital labels for lower-risk imported goods to reduce onerous food-labelling requirements on new supermarkets who seek to enter our grocery market, we have selected Christchurch City Council to be a single building consent authority to standardise decisions for grocery developments, and there is a wide range of other work under way, which, together, will help enhance grocery competition for shoppers.
Dr Vanessa Weenink: How will the changes to the Fast-track Approvals Act help grow the economy?
Hon NICOLA WILLIS: The fast-track regime will support growth by kick-starting projects right across the countryâprojects that will create jobs and help lift the incomes of Kiwi families and communities. The Act is generally working well, with six projects already consented and three more expected to have decisions before Christmas. Over the past few months, expert panels and panel conveners, applicants, Government officials, and councils have identified areas where improvements could be made. Many of those were reflected in the changes made in this House last night. Officials estimate that the amendments could reduce the combined processing and consideration times by a further six weeks. That means more projects coming through the pipeline faster and thatâs good for growth, and all those in this House who stand on the side of job creation and income growth should have voted for that bill.
Question No. 3âWomen
3. to the Minister for Women: Does she stand by all her statements and actions regarding womenâs pay?
Yes, in the context they were given.
Hon Carmel Sepuloni: Why did she claim that Australiaâs mandatory pay gap reporting system costs the Australian Government billions?
Hon NICOLA GRIGG: That was the number that I had been advised at the time. That has since been revised, and we understand the set-up costs of the Australian regulator were substantial; only to deliver very minimal gain.
Hon Carmel Sepuloni: What has changed since August 2023, when she said that she supported large companies being required to report on their gender pay gaps?
Hon NICOLA GRIGG: Nothingâs changed. I do support large companies registering their pay gaps, but we donât believe in compulsion. In fact, we have a voluntary pay gap calculator, which has had 80,000 page visits and 11,500 unique visitors, and, as a result, weâve seen the pay gap drop a full 3 percent to the lowest ever on record, at 5.2 percent.
Hon Carmel Sepuloni: What proportion of reduction in the gender pay gap is due to collective agreements or pay equity settlements?
Hon NICOLA GRIGG: I would have to get that question put on notice for the exact figure, but what I would say is that the representatives of those very hard-working union members who dutifully pay their levies to those union representatives really should start to try to utilise the new framework and raise claims again to prove that it works.
Hon Carmel Sepuloni: Is the chief executive of her ministry correct that at no point since the Government passed pay equity changes under urgency has she asked for or received advice from the Ministry for Women on pay equity?
Hon NICOLA GRIGG: Yes, she is correct.
Hon Carmel Sepuloni: Is she concerned that the chief executive of her ministry was unable to confirm her claim that changes to pay equity and cancelling 33 pay equity claims âcan only be a good thing for womenâ?
Hon NICOLA GRIGG: I have absolute faith in the Chief executive of the Ministry for Women, butâas has been traversed ad nauseam in this House, but that member still does not seem to understandâpay equity and the pay gap cannot be conflated. There are multiple factors that go into the pay gap in New Zealand, and Iâm explaining this slowly so that it might sink in.
Hon Carmel Sepuloni: Why, when, effectively, Pasifika women have been working for free since 9 October, MÄori women since 18 October, Asian women since 25 October, and PÄkehÄ women since 25 November, has she cancelled 33 pay equity claims, locked out secondary teachers from future pay equity claims, and wonât support mandatory gender pay gap reporting?
Hon NICOLA GRIGG: I have absolutely no responsibility for a number of those situations that that member has raised.
Question No. 4âJustice
4. to the Minister of Justice: How is the Government progressing with its plan to restore law and order? [Interruption]
SPEAKER: Just a minute. Itâs pretty simple. If someone is asking a question, no one else is talking, and there was a lot of talking during Tom Rutherfordâs question. [Interruption] No, we donât want to hear it again, but it would be a good idea just to at least let the Minister start before deciding to commentate on his answer.
Weâre making great progress. We had a target of reducing the number of victims of serious violent crime by 20,000. Itâs already down by 38,000, but we know that there is a lot more work to do, and we donât rest on our laurels for a moment because there are still far too many victims of crime. Thatâs why todayâs Crimes Amendment Bill, which will have its first reading, will bring in a number of initiatives to ensure that criminals face stronger penalties for attacking first responders, for coward punches, for human trafficking, and for retail crime.
Tom Rutherford: What will the Crimes Amendment Bill do?
Hon PAUL GOLDSMITH: It creates specific offences for assaulting first responders and prison officers, as committed to in the National - New Zealand First coalition, so that those who commit acts of violence against these people who rush towards danger to help their fellow New Zealanders will face greater consequences. It also fulfils the coalition commitment to create two new, specific coward punch offences, where people can be killed or suffer life-long injuries from these atrocious acts, and yet often the perpetrators receive lenient sentences. The Government is also seeking to strengthen trafficking and people-smuggling laws to stop criminals using loopholes to evade consequences that often affect the most vulnerable people.
Tom Rutherford: What other changes will the Crimes Amendment Bill make?
Hon PAUL GOLDSMITH: Thereâs a number of areas in the retail space, which has been an ongoingâ
Hon Shane Jones: Gangs, gangs.
Hon PAUL GOLDSMITH: Well, gangs have been dealt with in the previous legislation, Mr Jones, but in so far as they are connected with retail crime, they will suffer the consequences here, as well. Too often, business owners have been left feeling helpless as thieves walk out with whatever they please. Weâll clarify the citizenâs arrest powers so that if itâs safe and appropriate to do so, people can hold on to these offenders until the police arrive, and that will make a difference. It also introduces a new shoplifting regime with an instant fine to bring about swift consequences in that circumstance.
Tom Rutherford: How will the Crimes Amendment Bill make a difference for victims?
Hon PAUL GOLDSMITH: The victims of retail crime will now have greater ability to hold those who steal from themâand not just from them but from their fellow law-abiding customersâto account by holding on to them until the police arrive, if itâs safe to do so, but also by bringing swift consequences through an infringement regime.
TÄkuta Ferris: How has the Government progressed in 2025 with its plan to lower MÄori overrepresentation in the justice system?
Hon PAUL GOLDSMITH: Very well, in the sense that weâre very much focused on the fact that MÄori are overrepresented in the number of victims of crime. That is why we are very focused on reducing the number of victims of crime, which will have a bigger impact on MÄori communities as they continue to be overrepresented as victims of crime. Everything we do in our Government is done to reduce the number of victims of crimeâMÄori, PÄkehÄ, and every other ethnic group in this country.
TÄkuta Ferris: Has the Ministerâs focus on lowering the percentage of MÄori as victims of crime had any impact on the Ministerâs goal of lowering MÄori overrepresentation in justice?
Hon PAUL GOLDSMITH: Well, yes, and that is the thing: if theyâre more likely to be victims of crime, our reducing the overall number of victims of crime has a real impact and success for MÄori, and when I go about the countryâmost recently, I was in Huntly, in an audience of, largely, MÄori New Zealanders. They were pushing me to be even firmer on consequences for crime because they wanted to live in a safe community and they want their families to feel safe, and MÄori are no different to any other New Zealanders in that desire. [Interruption]
SPEAKER: Iâll make the point that the Minister doesnât need the complementary support from his own side. Heâs very capable of answering on his own.
Hon Louise Upston: Can the Minister advise what progress has been made to restore real consequences for sexual violence?
Hon PAUL GOLDSMITH: Well, thereâs been very significant progress in this area over the last three years. We brought back three strikes so that that very small number of perpetrators of serious sexual violence are kept out of circulation for longer; weâve restricted the ability to have massive discounts on sentences so that those people who are convicted of serious sexual crimes actually face real consequences for those; weâve changed the rules so that permanent name suppression is not available to adult sex offenders unless the victim agrees; weâve brought in stalking legislation, which has been talked about for years, and that now sends a very clear signal to them; and weâve ended the culture of excuses that was exemplified by funding cultural reports, which seemed to send the idea that it wasnât your fault but it was somebody elseâs fault for the crime that was perpetrated. I canât think of another Government recently that has done more to make excellent progress in sending a very clear message around our societyâs expectations on sexual violence.
Question No. 5âDisability Issues
5. to the Minister for Disability Issues: Does she stand by her statement that the Government is committed to âbreaking down barriers and improving the lives of disabled peopleâ; if not, why not?
Yes, and thatâs why we took immediate action to stabilise the disability support system and invested a record $2.1 billion funding boost to Disability Support Services (DSS) in the last two Budgets. Thatâs also why weâve released the New Zealand Disability Strategy, which shows the measurable actions that we will take over the next five years to improve the lives of disabled New Zealanders. Whaikaha has also recently launched the first all-of-Government internship programme that will see a group of disabled people employed in the Public Service. Our Government is committed to improving the lives of disabled people and their families.
Hon Priyanca Radhakrishnan: Why was the national Enabling Good Lives (EGL) leadership group downgraded such that it is no longer a ministerial advisory group?
Hon LOUISE UPSTON: I would disagree that itâs been downgraded. Iâd like to actually quote from a letter that has been received just recentlyâjust this week, in factâfrom the chair of the EGL national leadership group. It saysâand I quoteâthat they are âwriting to express our appreciation to Whaikaha and the Ministry of Disability Issues and to Cabinet for formally acknowledging Enabling Good Lives as a foundation, touchstone, and guide within the New Zealand Disability Strategyâ.
Hon Priyanca Radhakrishnan: Why did the chief executive of Whaikaha tell a select committee during scrutiny week last week that the core relationship with the national EGL leadership group will no longer be with the Minister, but will be with the ministry?
Hon LOUISE UPSTON: Because thatâs accurate, and, as Iâve just quoted from the chair of the EGL leadership group, they have acknowledged the work that is going on. I donât agree that itâs downgraded; I think itâs a really important relationship, and, as Iâve said, the EGL principles are a cornerstone of our New Zealand Disability Strategy and are fundamental to not only the stabilising but the strengthening work of DSS.
Hon Priyanca Radhakrishnan: Why did she choose to stop work on My Home My Choice, a programme that works on alternatives to residential care for disabled people?
Hon LOUISE UPSTON: That was a pilot initiative that was started by Whaikaha, and when we have focused our efforts on the disability support system, it is first about stabilisingâand, as I said, weâve invested a record $2.1 billion into Disability Support Services. Part of thatâand the really exciting news in terms of what comes into effect in February next year with the changes we have madeâis greater choice and control for disabled people, including for residential care. Iâm surprised that that member isnât celebrating a record investment and greater choice and control for disabled people, which is exactly the EGL principles.
Hon Priyanca Radhakrishnan: Is she concerned that she has stopped My Home My Choice at a time when young people are increasingly being forced to live in aged-care homes because there arenât any alternatives?
Hon LOUISE UPSTON: Well, Iâm not sure that that member listened to the answer that I gave around the stabilisation and the strengthening of the disability support system, along with a record investment of $2.1 billion, which is all around how we ensure that the lives of disabled New Zealanders who access DSS have greater choice and control and that there also is a stable system that is fair and consistent throughout New Zealand.
Hon Priyanca Radhakrishnan: What has she done about the increasing number of young disabled people living in aged-care homes, other than cutting the one programme designed to address the issue?
Hon LOUISE UPSTON: Well, I would reject that assertion, and I do agree that it is challenging for younger people who, because of a lack of access in the area they live, there is access to suitable residential care. But I would just put on record that that was a pilot. It was not across New Zealand; it was in a couple of locations, and what we need to do is to stabilise access to residential support, which is exactly what weâve done. Thatâs why the record investment of $2.1 billion into DSS is so important, and the changes that come into effect in February next year give greater choice and control for disabled people in terms of where they live and how they live, and what services they access to support them.
Hon Priyanca Radhakrishnan: How can she say that her Government is committed to improving the lives of disabled people when sheâs taking away disabled peopleâs choice and control over where they live, she has withdrawn Government support for the EGL approach, and the disability unemployment rate is at an eight-year high?
Hon LOUISE UPSTON: Well, I absolutely reject the comments that that member has made, and Iâm not sure that she listened to my answers in terms of how important the Enabling Good Lives principles are. It was a former National Government that introduced them in the first place, they are woven through the New Zealand Disability Strategy, and they are fundamentally at the heart of the changes we have made that come into effect on 1 February next year around flexible funding, which means there are zeroâzeroâpurchasing guidelines, and total and absolute choice and controlâ
Hon Priyanca Radhakrishnan: No one wants that, either.
Hon LOUISE UPSTON: âfor disabled people. That member is saying that disabled people donât want thatâwell, thatâs not what theyâre telling me. They want choice and control, and our Government is giving it to them.
Mariameno Kapa-Kingi: How can the Minister claim the Government is breaking down barriers when the WhaikahaâMinistry of Disabled People annual report for the last financial year confirms significant data gaps for MÄori disability outcomes and no clear funding breakdown for kaupapa MÄori providers, leaving tangata whaikaha MÄori without transparent accountability or targeted investment?
Hon LOUISE UPSTON: Well, I would say that, across many areas of Government, data needs to be improved in terms of the breakdown for MÄori, and Iâm happy to go away and have a look at what improvements we can make.
Mariameno Kapa-Kingi: Why has the Government failed to set a clear timeline for closing the significant data gaps on accessibility and MÄori-specific disability outcomes identified in the WhaikahaâMinistry of Disabled People annual report for the last financial year, and when will the Minister commit to delivering disaggregated data that enables targeted action for tangata whaikaha MÄori?
Hon LOUISE UPSTON: Well, I would just say that our Government is focused on improving the lives of disabled New Zealanders from one end of the country to the other. As Iâve said, Iâm happy to look at what improvements can be made around data, but our Government is absolutely focused on improving their lives.
Question No. 6âTourism and Hospitality
6. to the Minister for Tourism and Hospitality: What recent announcements has she made to support major events in New Zealand?
Last week, I announced the first tranche of events from our major events package. The line-up includes many exciting international and home-grown music acts, sports matches, and arts and cultural events kicking off in 2026. The first round is an integral part of the $70 million major events and tourism package designed to drive economic activity and confidence throughout the country. Tourism and major events are a crucial part of our Governmentâs focus on economic growth. More world-class events means more visitors, more jobs, and a growing economy.
David MacLeod: What are the successful events?
Hon LOUISE UPSTON: The first tranche includes 20 events, and, amongst the highlights, American rockers Linkin Park will play in Auckland, the Ultra Music Festival brings its Miami-famous electronic dance music to Wellington, and our local legends Six60 are collaborating with Synthony for the very first time in Christchurch. In total, we will be supporting over 70 events either directly or indirectly through the Events Attraction Package and the Events Boost Fund. This is just the beginning. Weâll continue to set the stage for a massive year in 2026, and Iâm looking forward to announcing other high-profile events in the new year.
David MacLeod: What benefits does she expect to see as a result of this announcement?
Hon LOUISE UPSTON: When major events come to town, the economic ripple effect is huge. For every dollar spent on live performance, $3.20 is returned in benefits to the wider community. We know itâs looking positive, with the latest visitor stats showing an increase of 22,500 visitors in October 2025 compared to a year before. Events donât just bring more visitors and economic benefits; they bring life and energy to our cities, creating vibrant communities and unforgettable experiences. Thatâs why weâve invested in an exciting calendar of events designed to strike a chord with everyone.
David MacLeod: What feedback has she seen on this announcement?
Hon LOUISE UPSTON: The feedback has been incredibly positive. David Higgins from Duco Events has said, âHaving support from the Government is very helpful. It enables us to confidently go big and put on massive shows that otherwise might not happen, and it makes New Zealand a nice place to live.â The Otago Rally organiser, Roger Oakley, was ecstatic, and said, âWeâre heading into the 50th anniversary event for the Otago Rally next year and this funding will help us to bring it to the next levelâsomething this remarkable milestone deserves.â New Zealand has an excellent global reputation for delivering world-class events, and Iâm looking forward to announcing even further events in the coming months.
Question No. 7âMÄori Development
7. to the Minister for MÄori Development: Is he concerned by the warnings of the United Nations Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination that New Zealand is at serious risk of weakening MÄori rights and entrenching disparities for MÄori, and, if so, what is he doing to address these warnings?
on behalf of the Minister for MÄori Development: The Government takes its international human rights obligations seriously and remains committed to ensuring equitable outcomes for MÄori. We acknowledge the concerns raised by the United Nations Committee on the Elimination of Racial DiscriminationâCERDâand weâll continue to engage constructively with the committee through a regular reporting process. Te Puni KĹkiri are contributing to the cross-Government response to CERDâs concluding observations, which is led through the Ministry of Justice.
Teanau Tuiono: What will he do to address the concerns of the Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination that many of the Governmentâs policies, including scrapping Te Aka Whai Ora and budget cuts to MÄori servicesâand I quoteââmay seriously risk weakening the legal, institutional and policy framework for the implementationâ of the racial discrimination convention?
Hon Dr SHANE RETI: As I said in my primary response, the ministry is working through the concluding observations, but as it relates to the MÄori Health Authority, Iâd also note that the committee recommended established bodies composed of MÄori and Pacific health experts; the Hauora MÄori Advisory Committee is exactly that.
Teanau Tuiono: Does he agree with Lady Tureiti Moxon that this report is âunprecedented in its length and its languageâ and âCERD is clear: New Zealand is moving backwards on racial equality, and MÄori rights are under serious threat.â, and, if not, why not?
Hon Dr SHANE RETI: No, I do not, and I enjoyed the conversation with her this time last week.
Teanau Tuiono: Is he embarrassed that unlike the last review, this report finds virtually no positive progress by New Zealand on MÄori rights or racial equality?
Hon Dr SHANE RETI: No. Iâm pleased by the positive recommendations that the report does resolve to, including noting the initiatives taken by the New Zealand Police to address systemic bias in policing practices, and the increase in the number of MÄori judges in the District Courts.
Teanau Tuiono: Have any Government policies worsened outcomes for MÄori?
Hon Dr SHANE RETI: Our ambitions are to improve the outcomes and improve equitable positions for MÄori.
Hon Shane Jones: Is the Minister aware that a number of the people who sit on these UN pettifogging committees come from countries with far worse race relationsâ
SPEAKER: No, hang onâhang on. Waitâ
Hon Shane Jones: âproblems than New Zealand?
SPEAKER: You can have a go at asking the question again without the sort of emoluments in it that rule it slightly out of the Standing Ordersâas the member himself has pointed out to me in recent days.
Hon Shane Jones: Thank you for that elucidationâ
SPEAKER: Itâs an opportunity. Carry on.
Hon Shane Jones: Is the Minister aware that a number of the people that sit upon the United Nations committee hail from nations who have their own race relations problems that are worse than in our nation State of New Zealand?
Hon Dr SHANE RETI: As I said in my primary answer, I acknowledge that we have work to do and we have a process to do that, and I believe other members of the committee also have issues that theyâre trying to work through also.
Hon Paul Goldsmith: Is the Minister aware that the Minister of Justice had an extensive and constructive conversation with members of the committee over the course of their inquiry, and pointed out many of the areas where this Government is making excellent progress in advancing outcomes for MÄori?
SPEAKER: Thatâs greatânow, whereâs the question.
Hon Paul Goldsmith: Is he awareâis he aware?
SPEAKER: Yeah, I knowâwell, good. Are you aware?
Hon Dr SHANE RETI: I am aware. I am aware of theâ
SPEAKER: Thatâll do then. Thatâs fine.
Hon Dr SHANE RETI: âCERD process that the Ministry of Justice has.
SPEAKER: No, thatâs fine.
Teanau Tuiono: Does he accept the finding that the Governmentâs efforts to remove Treaty clauses from legislationâand I quoteâârisk entrenching historical, structural, and systemic discrimination against MÄori.â, and, if so, will the Government finally leave Te Tiriti o Waitangi alone?
Hon Dr SHANE RETI: What I accept is that concerns of this nature as expressed by CERD are being worked through by the Ministry of Justice, which has the lead, and we remain committed to reducing inequalities and to having better outcomes for MÄori.
Question No. 8âUniversities
8. to the Minister for Universities: What recent announcement has he made about the Waikato Medical School?
Last week, myself and the Minister of Health, the Hon Simeon Brown, announced that construction is now under way on Waikatoâs new medical school. With $82.85 million in Government funding, this new school represents a major long-term investment in medical education across the Waikato region and New Zealand and it will change the medical education landscape. Itâs an exciting development and a major milestone in the Governmentâs plan to train more GPs. This Government is focused on fixing the basics and Iâm proud to see the construction start on this exciting new school, and I want to acknowledge the many people over many years who have nourished this vision.
Ryan Hamilton: How will the new school strengthen medical education in New Zealand?
Hon Dr SHANE RETI: We are building for the future, and this new school will help develop the health workforce New Zealand needs. From 2028, the Waikato medical school will train an additional 120 doctors each year, making the medical school one of the most significant workforce investments in a generation. The schoolâs teaching model places particular emphasis on primary care and rural GPsâareas that are currently challenging. Itâs a good example of how universities are working to align studentsâ skills with the needs of the country, and it will provide a significant boost to tertiary education, as well as creating opportunities for the local workforce.
Ryan Hamilton: How will this approach strengthen primary care in New Zealand?
Hon Dr SHANE RETI: This new school supports the Governmentâs clear focus on strengthening primary care, especially for regional New Zealand. Providing access to medical education locally means students can train closer to home, while helping build a resilient, regionally connected workforce. After their first year on campus in Waikato, students will spend three years undertaking clinical placements in a regional or provincial setting. Under a wider âtrain in place, stay in placeâ model, these trainees are more likely to then live and work in the regions, and this will help people see a doctor more easily and will improve the distribution of doctors across the country.
Ryan Hamilton: What feedback has he seen about the new school?
Hon Dr SHANE RETI: I have received positive feedback from academics, practitioners, and some of the parents of the over 300 New Zealand citizens currently training in Australian medical schools. The Waikato Chamber of Commerce expressed their support for the school, highlighting its transformative potential. The Rural Health Network expressed delight with the announcement of a third medical school. The message from throughout the country is clear that this new medical school is a game-changer.
Question No. 9âVeterans
9. to the Minister for Veterans: Is he committed to ensuring that veterans receive their full entitlements from the Crown following the High Court rulings on TÄ Harawira Gardinerâs case; if not, why not?
on behalf of the Minister for Veterans: Yes.
Greg OâConnor: Will he rule out any legislative change that will override the High Courtâs ruling on veteransâ entitlements; if not, why not?
Hon JUDITH COLLINS: On behalf of the Minister, the Government is carefully considering its response. We need to fully understand the impact on claims before making a decision, and Iâm not in a position to rule any response in or out.
Greg OâConnor: Does he agree that when the High Court has twice clarified how Veteransâ Affairs should be deciding veteransâ claims, any attempt to relitigate or legislate to narrow veteransâ rights would be an act of bad faith towards those who have risked their lives for New Zealand?
Hon JUDITH COLLINS: Well, I think itâs very important to allow the Government to do its job, just as the previous Government had to wrestle with exactly the same issue when it also appealed against the decision of the Veteransâ Entitlement Appeal Board. I think it is a very serious issue, and the Government is taking it seriously. The Minister will of course, as a very astute and careful Minister, put his best efforts into this.
Greg OâConnor: Why do veterans who have been injured or who have died from having served their countryâand their familiesâhave to repeatedly go to court to receive the care and support theyâre entitled to?
Hon JUDITH COLLINS: Well, the member might wonder why the previous Government also appealed the decision. I think what is very important to understand is thatâ[Interruption] Just calm down. I think it is very important for this to be taken seriously, as the previous Government had to, and to consider all the implications of this. Itâs a very serious matter and the Government is carefully considering its responseâand instead of getting excited about it, just wait, listen, and work with the Government.
Greg OâConnor: What does he have to say to all those veterans and their whÄnau who have been declined support as a result of an interpretation of the Act which Justice Grau described as âthe very opposite of benevolence and instead appears to be about resources.â?
Hon JUDITH COLLINS: Iâd say that itâs a good thing that this Government is in charge, and not the previous one. Since the High Courtâs decision, Veteransâ Affairs has been processing claims in line with the courtâs interpretation, and additional funding was made available in Budget 2025 to do thisânot something that had happened under the previous regime.
Greg OâConnor: Does the Minister realise that to qualify for veteransâ support, a veteran must have served in a war zone?
Hon JUDITH COLLINS: Well, Iâd just suggest that that member not try and tell his grandma how to suck eggs.
SPEAKER: That could be described as a scrap between the grandparents, butâ
Hon JUDITH COLLINS: Iâm sure you and I would never have such an argument.
SPEAKER: Lucky itâs Christmas!
Question No. 10âEnergy
10. to the Minister for Energy: Is he confident in the viability of the offshore wind industry in Taranaki?
Yes.
Scott Willis: Is the decision of JERA Nex bp Ltdâa company registered in England and Wales, which was intending to build a 500 megawatt to 1 gigawatt of offshore wind farm in South Taranaki Bightâto withdraw from operations in New Zealand a sign of the good health of the industry?
Hon SIMON WATTS: Well, the entity that has been referred to is owned by BP and it is based out of the UK. Investment decisions are matters for individual companies. I am confident that offshore wind in New Zealand is viable. The Government is committed to creating a regime to support offshore wind, and weâre taking significant steps to make that a reality.
Scott Willis: Point of order, Mr Speaker. I seek leave to table a letter from JERA Nex bp Ltd to me, confirming their intention to cease operations in New Zealand from the end of 2025.
SPEAKER: Leave is sought. Is there any objection to that course of action? There appears to be none.
Document, by leave, laid on the Table of the House.
Scott Willis: What are the implications for the offshore wind industry, with Taranaki Offshore Partnership indicating that the planned seabed-mining operation would make offshore wind in the area unfeasible, and BlueFloat, already having withdrawn from New Zealand, citing Trans-Tasman Resourcesâ seabed-mining as a leading reason?
Hon SIMON WATTS: Well, Iâm very happy to help the member with a little bit of positive news in regard to developments in the offshore wind area. Only a week ago, Genesis and the entity which the member just notedâTaranaki Offshore Partnershipâhave entered into a memorandum of understanding to explore offshore wind development in New Zealand. More electricity generation has been commissioned in the past 18 months by this Government than in the entirety of the last 15 years, and so if the member wants a little bit of advice: support the Resource Management Act reform, support fast track, and make sure he supports liquefied natural gas.
Scott Willis: Is he aware of the submissions from the offshore wind developers on the Trans-Tasman Resources seabed-mining fast-track application showing the incompatibility of seabed mining and offshore wind, and does the failure of the fast-track panel to seek comment from him, as Minister for Energy, indicate a significant failing of the fast-track regime?
Hon SIMON WATTS: Again, Iâd be very happy to send the member a copy of a press release that I issued probably a couple of months ago, I think, in regard to decisions by this Government to draft an amendment to deal with the reality that we are going to be undertaking offshore exploration in conjunction with undertaking offshore wind, and making sure that those two economic growth opportunities for this country can coexist in the Taranaki region. This Government wants economic growth, we are looking to enable that through an amendment, and thatâs currently being worked through.
Scott Willis: Does the over six-month delay in passing the Offshore Renewable Energy Bill, and the withdrawal of yet another offshore wind developer, mean that the Minister for Energy has capitulated to the Minister for Resources, and offshore wind energy is simply dead in the water under this Government, which is instead prioritising seabed-mining?
Hon SIMON WATTS: No. The reality is that this is a very busy Government. Weâve got a significant work programme under way. As I noted, we are currently drafting the Amendment Paper required to deal with the exclusivity issue that the member has noted and the industry has noted, and I will reinforce again that if the Green Party really wanted to see more renewable energy in this country, then they would support fast track.
Scott Willis: Will the Minister be renaming the Electrify NZ programme the âMining NZ programmeâ on the basis of his Governmentâs actually revealed priorities?
Hon SIMON WATTS: No.
Question No. 11âAgriculture
11. to the Associate Minister of Agriculture: What recent announcements has the Minister made regarding the wool sector?
On Monday, I had the privilege to announce and attend the completion of the first commercial consignment of deconstructed woollen particles at Wool Sourceâs facility at Lincoln University. It is a shipment now bound for Japan for use in haircare products, showcasing this revolutionary new process, supported by $3.5Â million in funding through the Ministry for Primary Industries.
Dr David Wilson: Why are these announcements significant for the wool industry?
Hon MARK PATTERSON: Deconstruction of wool and fibre technology is the moonshot for the New Zealand wool industry. Deconstructing woollen pigments, particles, and powders into bioagents for inks, dyes, and nutraceuticals takes wool on to a whole new commercial playing field. It has the potential to capture very high returns and support much higher farm-gate returns, and, importantly, it has the potential to scale up and take significant quantities of New Zealand wool. Importantly, this world-leading technology has been developed by WRONZâthe Wool Research Organisation of New Zealandâat Lincoln University, and the intellectual property is owned by New Zealand farmers and the industry.
Dr David Wilson: What other initiatives are currently under way in the wool sector?
Hon MARK PATTERSON: One of my priorities has been re-establishing mandated leadership for the wool sector. Since the demise of the Wool Board and the industry levy in 2011, the sector has been fragmented, lacking coordination and leadership. The Wool Alliance has been formed to explore an enduring industry model: a collaborative initiative designed to develop a sustainable, long-term industry model. The alliance brings together Wool Impact, Campaign for Wool New Zealand, and the Wool Research Organisation of New Zealand, with support from Beef + Lamb New Zealand, and it is chaired by John Monaghan, a former chairman of Fonterra. Iâm pleased to report that farmer and industry consultation is under way, with the aim of having a formal structure formalised by the end of June 2026.
Dr David Wilson: What have been the highlights of the wool sector in 2025?
Hon MARK PATTERSON: Look, the ultimate highlight and result has been the increase in the wool price, which is up 25 to 40 percentâdepending on the micronâyear on year as there is a return to natural fibres and woollen products. A particular highlightâand I must acknowledge the Hon Nicola Willis, as wellâwas the Governmentâs announcement to preference woollen fibres in Government buildings. It has been well received by farmers, by industry, and by the public, and it has attracted international recognition. But the greatest reward for me has been witnessing the revival of the sector, with the return of pride for our wool growers and our industry and a sense of collaboration and purpose, and they are able to see investment starting to flow back into this sector, with the knowledge that their Government is right behind them.
Jenny Marcroft: Can the Minister confirm that he has set a high âbaaâ for the wool industry?
SPEAKER: Well, next minute youâll be asking him to demonstrate, and so weâll just move on.
Question No. 12âVocational Education
12. to the Minister for Vocational Education: Will Industry Skills Boards be able to carry out their full mandate from 1 January 2026; if not, why not?
The industry skills boards (ISBs) will be operational from 1 January 2026. The governance boards are in place now. They are currently going through the process of appointing chief executives and making offers to appropriate staff from the workforce development councils (WDCs). They will certainly be operational from 1Â January 2026, but, like any new organisation, they will build capacity and capability as they evolve and progress. But, importantly, they have a very clear expectation of what their core functions are and what is most important for them to concentrate on early.
Shanan Halbert: Has she or any of the agencies she is responsible for provided the Minister of Education with advice on the feasibility of the industry skills boards being able to deliver on their role in replacing NCEA?
Hon PENNY SIMMONDS: Well, of course, replacing NCEA and undertaking curriculum development for the compulsory sector is not a core part of the ISBsâ business, but, of course, we are incredibly supportive of the excellent work that Minister Stanford is doing to progress vocational pathways in schools, and we look forward to ISBs contributing positively to that work. While ISBs have a smaller number of core functions, itâs always been anticipated that thereâll be additional functions from time to time, like supporting the schoolsâ vocational pathways, researching apprentice success, and other specific industry initiatives. Theyâll be undertaken as additional funding is made available for those tasks.
Shanan Halbert: Will industry skills boards need more funding and assistance to deliver on their part of the Governmentâs plan to replace NCEA?
Hon PENNY SIMMONDS: Well, Iâll just repeat some of the things that Iâve said in the previous answer, which is that they have core functions that they are core-funded for, and there will be other initiatives from time to time, like supporting the vocational pathways that Minister Stanford is doing such a wonderful job in bringing forward. We are delighted to be able to be part of that very positive work to ensure that there are pathways. Thereâll be other functions and other initiativesâsuch as the research weâd like them to do on the success of apprenticeshipsâand thereâll be other workforce initiatives that industries will want, and we will do those from time to time when funding is available for those initiatives.
Shanan Halbert: Has anyone who will be on an industry skills board raised concerns with her around their ability to design curriculum with less funding and less staff compared to the workforce development councils?
Hon PENNY SIMMONDS: Well, of course, the workforce development councils didnât develop curriculum for the compulsory schooling sector either, and there will be less funding available for the ISBs than the WDCs, but I have high expectations of them being more efficient than the WDCs were. So, again, there will be the core functions that they will undertake from their core funding, and then there may be additional functions from time to time, with additional funding.
Shanan Halbert: Why has she done nothing to help ensure that industry skills boards will be able to deliver as part of the Governmentâs plan to replace NCEA?
Hon PENNY SIMMONDS: Well, thatâs interesting, because Iâve done a considerable amount to ensure there are boards in place, there are chief executives being appointed, and there are staff being appointed, and we are working closely with Minister Stanford in the wonderful work that she is doing on vocational pathways. We look forward to the ISBs being able to support those pathways from compulsory schooling into tertiary education.
Shanan Halbert: Did she have any input in industry skills boards being part of the NCEA replacement, or was she just told that it was happening?
Hon PENNY SIMMONDS: Of course I had input into it. There were core functions that were set, and then we knew that from time to time there would be additional functions. We are not only pleased to be involved in it but we are absolutely delighted because what it means is there is now a pathway from secondary schooling into vocational education through the vocational pathways. Itâs to enable a seamless movement, and so weâre delighted to be part of that initiative.
SPEAKER: That concludes oral questions. Members who have other duties that take them out of the House should leave the House quickly and quietly, with no conversations on the way.
đŁď¸ Spoke in this debate (18)
- Hon Judith Collins
- Shanan Halbert
- Ryan Hamilton
- David Macleod
- Greg O'Connor
- Mark William James Patterson
- Hon Priyanca Radhakrishnan
- Dr Shane Reti
- Tom Rutherford
- Hon Carmel Sepuloni
- Penny Simmonds
- Teanau Tuiono
- Hon Louise Upston
- Simon Watts
- Dr Vanessa Weenink
- Nicola Willis
- Scott Willis
- Dr David Wilson