Serious Fraud Office Amendment Bill
Thank you, Madam Speaker. I rise to speak on the third reading of the Serious Fraud Office Amendment Bill. I would like to first thank the Minister of Police for his genuine engagement and thoughtful responses during the committee stage. With that, I would also like to thank all of the officials who are providing that advice to the Minister who are staying here rather late as well.
To start with, yes, the Green Party does support this bill. I believe that all of the questions that we have and any of the remaining concerns and questions from the select committee stage that we carried into the second reading have been responded to during the committee of the whole House stage. I think itās important just to sort of recapture some of those that we have discussed. I think itās really important, again, that while weāre looking at potentially some of the carelessness that has been takenāweāre looking the RĀ v Pikia ruling by the Court of Appeal back in 2024, I believe, and some of the issues that were presented then. Itās especially important that we get some of the nuances right and some of the limitations and boundaries with the expanded search power by the Serious Fraud Office correct when we are looking at the committee stage as well.
Some of the things that I think were really important and we had great kind of engagement and discussions around were the definitions of computer systems and things, particularly when weāre looking at when something is around multiple jurisdictions as well. When weāre looking at when something that is not simply looking from an electronic perspective, not simply when youāre looking at a website or email address, but as technology evolves, how does that look in terms of apps, in terms of social media? But I also think, unfortunately, one of the things that we havenāt really touched onāand it only occurred to me now during the committee stageāis when we are looking at some of these searches, what is the role of artificial intelligence in all of these when you are searching things that are potentially in other forms of media like ChatGPT or OpenAI, etc? How would, in terms of our justice system but also in terms of the Serious Fraud Office (SFO), it be able to keep up with the type of technology that is being used. We are hoping that this bill will at least set an important baseline for the SFO to build on top of that.
One of the things that the Minister mentioned during the committee of the whole House stage is that there are going to be instances where we have to test and potentially update and develop this bill, but only when additional case law presents itself. It does, again, come to what I mentioned in the second reading: if we are already able to maybe front-end some of this and look at it proactively, is there something that we can do additionally that provides guidelinesāeven from a regulations perspectiveāor allows for the continued development of this particular process?
Other additional things I want to touch on with this bill are around things like safeguards, which is in new clause 6, as well as the clarification and consistency when weāre looking at the use of force. That has been a really important discussion for us to have. There have been some discussions around the ability for the issuing officer to issue a warrant to extend beyond the current limit of 14 days to 30 days, and allow for multiple occasions as wellāagain, based on the complexity of that particular requirement and that particular search. Itās also important that we managed to get clarification from the Minister when we were looking at āEffect of warrant issued under Part 2āāso this is in replacement section 12A, inserted by clause 7āthat the limitation there, although not explicitly spelled out in clause 12A(1)(a), is still 30 days. That is an important consistency for us to be able to have.
In some of the additional partsāagain, as we are looking at absence and the development of the technology areaāI think some of the clarification we seek from the Minister regarding 12BA(1) where it specifically still requires email addresses, the clarification there is around the fact that it is a way to guide and to say that, to the best of their ability, anything from there will be sent to your email address. For example, I guess, on the completion of the search, on things that are being searched, how long they were in there for, what documents that were taken, etc.āto the best of their ability to send it to you at a relevant email address, but when thatās not available, there are other mechanisms in place to be able to do some of that work.
I do think that one of the final things in this particular bill that I want to touch onāin a reflection from the committee stageāare some of the things that the Hon Dr Duncan Webb mentioned in clause 8, particularly when it comes to the inadmissibility of evidence, which is again one of the reasons why this bill was brought into the House in the first place, and the common legal concept of the fruit of the poisoned tree. I think thatās a really important one that, in conjunction with Schedule 1, we had a substantial discussion on. Again, itās important to get that clarification when weāre looking at clause 8āreplacement section 22(3) being applicable when thereās been no chargesāI think the Minister specified that it does not necessarily apply in the same way if it is to do with the inadmissibility of evidence. It would not apply when youāre looking at an appeal, is my understanding from the conversation during the select committee.
Finally, I think this is an important bill, as we have heard, and as my colleague Celia Wade-Brown mentioned in the second reading. The importance of the Serious Fraud Office is to ensure both that we maintain that aspect of honest politics here in Aotearoa New Zealand when it comes to our democratic processes but also, at the same time, the Serious Fraud Office has a key role. One of the things we are constantly finding here is that while weāre talking about aspects of crime, our approach to white collar crime āfor fraud, for tax evasionāhas never received the kind of funding that it really deserves, to be able to address those issues sufficiently.
In this particular case, we clearly, as a House, agree on the importance for us to address serious fraud, and I think Hon Dr Duncan Webb also mentioned, in this case, that itās not just simply when it comes to things like scams etc., but also when it comes to aspects of systemic importanceāthings from our banking system, any other things that are potentially at an international and a multinational corporation level. Those are things that are really important for us to be able to equip our Serious Fraud Office to address sufficiently. I do believe that this is somewhere where we can see some increase in funding to allow them to do that.
I agree with the Minister that the current Serious Fraud Office is doing its best to be able to undertake the kind of work that he needs to do, but one of the things that did concern me slightly in that particular response on the commencement date was the fact that the Serious Fraud Office has to prioritise. We understand the importance, with prioritisation, but when weāre seeing agencies having to prioritise on the basis of lack of sufficient funding, that doesnāt necessarily contribute to our political system, and we want to see the kind of honest politics and the kind of safety that we are providing for the people of Aotearoa New Zealand.
With that, the Green Party does support this bill. We thank the Minister for his engagement, and we thank the Minister for bringing this bill here. We will leave it and hopefully we will see some changes. Again, we will hopefully see some additional funding for the Serious Fraud Office.
This bill is supported across the House, so I commend the Serious Fraud Office Amendment Bill to the House.
Madam Speaker, at this time, the Government wishes to lift the urgency motion.
š¬ DEPUTY SPEAKER: The Government has indicated that urgency will conclude. Therefore, this debate is interrupted and set down for resumption next sitting day. The House stands adjourned until 2 p.m. on Tuesday, 1 September 2026.
Debate interrupted.
The House adjourned at 11.58 p.m.
š£ļø Spoke in this debate (5)
- Hon Mark Mitchell (New Zealand National Party ā Member for WhangaparÄoa)
- Tom Rutherford (New Zealand National Party ā Member for Bay of Plenty)
- Todd Stephenson (ACT New Zealand ā List Member)
- Dr Duncan Webb (New Zealand Labour Party ā Member for Christchurch Central)
- Dr Lawrence Xu-Nan (Green Party of Aotearoa / New Zealand ā List Member)