Taxation (Budget 2021 and Remedial Measures) Bill
Members, our final debate relates to clauses 1 and 2, the preliminary clauses. The question is that clauses 1 and 2 stand part.
Thank you, Madam Chair. I want to make a brief comment about the title and commencement, particularly given the conversation weāve just had about commencement. My initial comment is I really hope weāve got it right, because the likelihood is that we could be back here in two or three monthsā time going, āOh, clause 8 should have been clause 4, and section 134(2) was really meant to be ā1 April 2020-whateverā.ā This has been a very confusing conversation, so I implore the Government to get better at passing legislation so that we donāt have confusing commencement conversations like weāve just had.
Iām not one, normally, to give trite speeches about what the title of a bill should be, or that it should be this bill or that bill, but I feel compelled on this occasionā
š¬ Anna Lorck: Come on!
Itās all right, Anna Lorck, Iāve had my Berocca. I can go all night. Donāt worryāno magnesium near me. But I think whatās on the tin is definitely whatās not in the billā
š¬ Chris Bishop: Sheās backāsheās b-b-b-b-back!
With a bounce in her step. It says itās the Taxation (Budget 2021ā
š¬ Hon Member: āB-B-B-Budgetā.
āand Remedial Measures) āB-B-B-Billā, but itās got little to do with taxation and, in fact, now what we know is that this Government really wants to throw lots of taxes at people and never ever wants to cut them. We heard unequivocally that threshold changes, lowering the top tax rate, lifting the threshold for the bottom rates, cutting that gap between 17.5 percent and 30 percent is not even something they want to have a conversation about, and thatās because all they know how to do is tax.
āRemedial Measuresāāwell, I donāt know how remedial they really were. Sure, it was a muck-up. Itās a fixing of the muck-up that was made, and, boy, if thatās the way legislation is written, itās no wonder that people get confused. It went through select committee. It went through expert submissions. Generally speaking, the IRD bill writersāwho are not Parliamentary Counsel Office; theyāre usually IRD staff themselvesādo a heck of a good job. If anybody has read or scanned the Income Tax Act, it is a massive, massive document, and how on earth tax agents can actually fight their way through it, I donāt know, but thatās what theyāre paid to do. So these are muck-up measures where āRemedialā is a euphemism for fixing muck-ups, and I hope that we donāt have to waste any more of this Houseās time doing just that.
Thank you very much, Madam Chair. My colleague Michael Woodhouse says heās not one to give trite speeches on the title of bills. I, on the other hand, am exactly that person. And I know that Iāll receive great support across that side of the Chamber, and no doubt from all those watching at home or perhaps both of them by this stage, and greetings to both my parents.
The title of the bill is actually quite significant in this case. Itās a taxation Actāof course it is, because thatās the whole point of most Labour Budgets or Labour-led Budgets. Weāre now into Labour-led rather than Labour led by the nose by New Zealand First Government. So I suppose some things have changed even though far too much has stayed the same.
So itās not just a bill thatās taxing. Itās actually been very taxing tonight. And I think weāve all done our best to get our head around it, and thatās beenā
š¬ Hon Peeni Henare: Do us all a favour and call it quits, Chief.
I beg your pardon? No, Iāve missed the contribution from Peeni Henare, the honourable, excuse meā
š¬ Hon Michael Woodhouse: You didnāt miss much.
I didnāt miss much apparently. Well, I mean, I shouldnāt throw stones from inside a glass house, so weāll leave it at that.
But itās also a significant title of a bill because not only does it relate to taxation inevitably on this the day of Budget 2021 but it refers explicitly to Budget 2021, itās giving effect to that, but I wonder if it could just about apply to any Budget that this Government passes. And the reason I say that is because no doubt in 12 monthsā time weāre going to have yet another Budget from this Government that contains much of the same material because the good intentions havenāt changed, the lack of delivery hasnāt changed, and that is why we will, no doubt, be back legislating and re-legislating and unlegislating, in the case of some of these measures, and then re-unlegislating if thereās any errors compounding the errors, and maybe remedial measures may be needed for the remedial measures themselves. I think I can only conclude that by saying thatāagain, referencing the comments of the Hon Michael Woodhouse, he characterised that previous change as a āmuck-upā. Some people at home might be watching Parliament and think that it characterises something that rhymes with muck-up, but I wonāt, obviously, dwell on that, that would beā
š¬ Hon Peeni Henare: Stop being a suck upāstop being a suck up.
Thatās actually a very good comment. And I hope that Hansard has captured that from Peeni Henare. And I take it all back, what I endorsed before about his lack of contribution to the debate. Itās nice to have a Labour member in the Hansard on this bill other than mere closure motions.
So anyway, my final comment, and I do promise you it is my final one, is in relation to the commencement date. And itās not that gnarly detailā[Interruption]āIām being encouraged. I fear not in sincerity, but nevertheless. [Interruption] Oh, OK. No. I will nevertheless put us all out of our misery in relation to this contribution.
But I did want to make a serious point about the commencement, which is that it is entirely offensive to anyone who has any kinds of grammatical standardsāand I expect others to cross the floor, and Iām not going to look at them but they know who they areāwhen I say that we should not have a phrase ācome into force on 1 April 2021.ā That date is in the past. It should read āSections 5, 6, 8(1) and (3), and 9(1) came into force on 1Ā April 2021.ā And I look to the Minister to propose or, perhaps, accept a Supplementary Order Paper that I might put to changeā
š¬ Hon Michael Woodhouse: The whole Budgetās a great leap backwards, so why donāt we just go back in time?
Well, thatās right. Well actually, Michael Woodhouse points out, again very perceptively, and Iām leaning a lot on his contributions tonight in making my own, that the whole Budget is a bit of a leap back. I sort of wonder if the Budget also contained an announcement about R & D tax credits for time travel. I think weāll shortly have an announcement about ātime travel is soon to be made possible last yearā or something like that. But nevertheless, weāve been in a sort of Back to the Future kind of frame today: weāve had compulsory unionism, the creation of railway wagon construction yards, and a huge national debt. So itās back to the future with Labour. But as far as this bill is concerned, weāre back, weāre forward, weāre in, weāre out, and itās hard to know whether weāre up or down.
But, in any case, if the Minister could give some thought to the title of the bill, and also that very serious point about the tense and the tension, indeed, of the coming into force on a date that is in the past as opposed to the fact that it had come into force, or we should say came into force, that would be much appreciated.
I move, That the question be now put.
Motion agreed to.
The question is that clause 1 stand part.
Clause 1 agreed to.
Mr Speaker, the committee has considered the Taxation (Budget 2021 and Remedial Measures) Bill and reports it without amendment.
The question is, That the report be adopted.
Motion agreed to.
Report adopted.
Third Reading
š£ļø Spoke in this debate (5)
- Barbara Edmonds (New Zealand Labour Party ā Member for Mana)
- Sir Rt Hon Trevor Mallard (New Zealand Labour Party ā List Member)
- Chris Penk (New Zealand National Party ā Member for Kaipara ki Mahurangi)
- Hon Jenny Salesa (New Zealand Labour Party ā Member for Panmure-ÅtÄhuhu)
- Hon Michael Woodhouse (New Zealand National Party ā List Member)