General Debate
I move, That the House take note of miscellaneous business.
Kia orana. Thank you very much, Mr Speaker. Today I want to say, very clearly, that everyone needs a home and that we need to move away from housing as a commodity, towards a home and thriving communitiesâ
đŹ Hon Member: What about that land by the airport?
âas a fundamental human right instead of a privilege. We need to forge a whole new approach to delivering housingâin particular, understanding that housing was always supposed to be a core public good, a core responsibility of provision from the Crown, just like healthcare, education, and transport.
It has always been naive and irresponsible, in fact, to expect that a market-driven approach will prioritise anything other than profit, when we need houses and communities to address social and environmental concerns for people and our planet; for the needs of people, especially, moving into a world and a society that has to address climate change and inequality.
The communities that we design today need to respond and need to address a zero-carbon world. We need to be aiming for the highest standard of energy efficiencyâlike passive housing, where we can minimise the need for artificial heating through things like triple-glazed windows, through things like smart ventilation systems, and through things like maximum airtight build. This would benefit our people. This would benefit our community design. This would benefit our planet. We will need Government support to get a New Zealand - based, a locally based industry to the point where we are able to have these energy-efficient builds as a standard approach to the way that we have to live in our country and, indeed, the world.
The worst way that we can design communities is to undermine the justice and dispute issues at the heart of any particular land that proposes to be developed uponâI refer directly to IhumÄtao, given the shouts coming from that side of the House. That is the worst way to design communities. So the communities that we do design need to be with people. They need to be connected to where we live, work, and play. They need to be with our schools, our efficient and affordable public transport systems, where we work, and where we playâour green placesâand co-housing as a way of being able to address better use of land and also better use and understanding of how communities operate.
I cannot put up a housing vision without addressing public housing. I celebrate, with this Government, that we have built the most public houses that this country has actually seen for at least two decades. I want an Aotearoa where public houses also are built to a minimum energy-efficiency design, and co-house-type and papakÄinga-type choices and arrangements as another standard way for us to use the land, and building better.
I spoke at our AGM in Dunedin in the weekend about one of our flagship policies of a rent-to-own, Government-backed initiative as part of a massive lever to address the housing crisis issues that we are facing today, where we target low to middle income familiesâfamilies who are nowhere near being able to save a deposit but are paying a rentâthat we have a Government build scheme that allows that rent in the first, say, five years, to go towards building equity in owning their own home. This will allow more families to put down roots in their communities, to not have to worry about shifting their childrenâs schools, looking for other jobs, or leaving their neighbourhoods and friends.
A strong public housing programme, a rent-to-own policy, secure rentersâ rights, and addressing homelessnessâthese are parts of the new ways of forging a better approach to ending the housing crisis. Thank you.
Thank you, Mr Speaker. This Government has played fast and loose on housing. Six months ago, the Government announced it would have a KiwiBuild reset in a few weeks. Fast and loose. It wasnât in April, it wasnât in the Budget. It was going to be in Julyâno, Julyâs gone. Weâre now in August; apparently itâs going to be in September. We wait and we wait.
In August, last year, Phil Twyford said that he was going to redo all of the residential tenancy rules and have a look at the whole thing; there would be a review. Whatâs happened? Nothing. Fast and loose again. He said if landlords donât like it, well, then, they can take their money elsewhereâthatâs what he said. What has happened is that landlords have taken their money elsewhere.
They are now, in this Government, overseeing the worst State housing crisis that this country has ever seen. We now have 12,000 families waiting on the State house waiting registerâ12,000 familiesâup from 6,000 families when the National Government left office almost two years ago. When the Government changed, Labour said they were going to fix what they had described as âthe housing crisisâ, and what theyâve done now is build more tents.
Weâve heard from the Green member Marama Davidson, who talks about a rent-to-buy scheme using State housing. These are the same people who opposed every attempt that National had to get people who are State tenants into owning their own home.
What we have seen is the State house waiting list double. We have seen in the Speech from the Throne that there would be a rent-to-buy scheme introduced. Nothing has been delivered. In two years, weâve just seen people given promises; promises made and, then, not delivered on. Again, itâs a fast and loose Government on housing.
Phil Twyford liked to walk around with tears in his little eyes, saying, âWeâve now got a housing Minister who acknowledges we have a housing crisis.â Well, heâs just made it worse, and thatâs the problem. Many New Zealanders have to rentâor choose to rent, depending on their circumstancesâand the one thing that they need is a house, not a tent, but thatâs what weâre getting under this Government.
đŹ Remember: we were going to have no more people living in cars in the winter. Now, actually, that number has gone up. Whereâs the media? Oh, I donât know, maybe no longer talking to Labour as they were. The Labour Party had nine years in Opposition to work with the National Partyâand the then Governmentâon Resource Management Act (RMA) reform. They refused every singleâevery singleâoverture to work with us to bring forward really good RMA reform to free up housing land, to free up the cost of houses, to free up getting more houses built. Instead, what we now have is that Phil Twyfordâs admitted we need major housing reform, and I see the new State housing Minister, Kris Faafoi, overseeing the worst housing crisis in State housing weâve ever seen
KiwiBuild was always a farce. And what weâve seen is all these houses promised under KiwiBuildâremember, it was 1,000 in the first year; weâve got 83. Well, 83 is OK; itâs not 1,000, though. In Canterbury thereâs an underwriteâa promise, a guarantee, a priceâof 70 houses that were already under construction anyway. Six of those have been sold. Almost two years in and six of them have been sold.
Weâre going to have to as a Parliament appropriate money for 64 houses in Canterbury off the same developer in just a few weeks. In that time almost nothing has happened. We in Government had nine years and we brought in all sorts things like the HomeStart scheme. We got 70,000 families or young couples into their first home, and this Government has done almost nothing. Theyâve promised big. Theyâve talked big, theyâve had a little cry; what they havenât done is actually deliver for New Zealanders. Theyâve been very fast and loose with the truth about what they could deliverâ
đŹ SPEAKER: Order! Order!
âand what they needed to actually do. Theyâve been very fast and loose with housing, Mr Speaker, and they havenât been able to deliver on their promises. When this Government announces its reset in some more weeksâ or possibly monthsâ time, itâs going to reset back to the National Party policy that actually deliveredâa party that delivered nine years of progress.
Like someone like someone who has just had an eye operation, that member can seeâand she sees a housing crisis. She doesnât, of course, refer to the 585 houses in the Wairarapa, which they sold in a sweetheart deal to one of their mates for $20,000 eachâan absolute and utter scandal. She doesnât refer to the fact that we have the highest housing build ratio at the moment since 1973. No, sheâs blind to all that and then blames, of all people, the Labour Party and, dare I say it, New Zealand First for not getting the Resource Management Act reformed. She had a majority and now sheâs blaming this side for nine years of total utter inertia and inaction.
Now, Iâm not here to argue that. Iâm here to call out a guy called Hamish Walker who when I left to go overseas just recently decided when I was gone that he would attack me. Now, let me tell âJunior from the Deep Southâ he made one serious mistake doing that because we donât attack people when theyâre not here. We usually have enough courage to do it when they are here. But no, noâ
đŹ SPEAKER: Weâre not going to reflect on membersâ courage are we?
No, Iâm not going to do that, noânot when he hadnât got any.
đŹ SPEAKER: It sounded like the member was heading in that direction. I just wanted to cut him off at the pass.
I was not going to take that detour. I just mentioned the fact that you should attack a member when he is here, when he can respond. For example, he took a piece of information from The AM Show, which was itself based on a falsity, and then said that Iâd broken my word. Now, when I was on The AM Show they mentioned the KiwiSaver legislation where foster children were concerned and they claimed that they had the legislation already drafted. And when I was on that show his amendment hadnât yet been submitted to the Houseâgo and look at the chronology; hadnât even been submitted the Houseâso how could I have known about it? Do you see the fraud? Do you hear what Iâm talking about? Well, thatâs what he did.
Now, can I say he went on to then complain about us, but he never mentioned, for example, that when there was the Child, Youth and Family department in this country there were a large number of children, that is foster children, who were on KiwiSaverâa large numberâuntil of course the National Party removed the $1,000 kick-start payment in 2015. Where is this guy who deserves the âhâ word now?
đŹ Hon Member: What a disgrace.
What a disgrace. There he is. There are hundreds on KiwiSaver as a result of the previous department and along comes Nationalâso supportive of savings they remove their $1,000 kick-start payment. And then he gets up here like some virtuous clown from the deep South and starts saying what a brilliant idea this isâwhat a brilliant idea this is.
Now, my word to him and Duncan Garner is: if you want to attack me, you get your darn facts right. Donât just have me on the show, claim that thereâs a piece of law which is there and it doesnât exist, and say, âYou respond to that.â Go and look at the chronology of when he tabled his Supplementary Order Paperâhours after I was on the show. You get my point here?
Now, I want some of these senior members here to show some leadership for a change, show some principles, show some standards. I know itâs a bit hard for me to demand that of them, but please donât think youâre going to get away with this thoroughly disreputable behaviourâdeceitful in the extreme. Now, we all know that over there youâve got a bunch of people who are all fighting amongst themselves. Guess whyâbecause they havenât got a leader. They havenât got a leader. Gerry thinks heâs a leader.
đŹ SPEAKER: Order! Mr Brownlee.
And weâve got the guy from up Rodney. He thinks heâs a leader. And then youâve got all sorts of people putting their names forward. They canât even rate 1 percent in the polls but they still think theyâre leaders. Theyâre fractious. Theyâre falling apart.
đŹ Brett Hudson: Itâs about New Zealand First.
Oh, donât look at New Zealand Firstâor, dare I say it, this Government. This Government has got leaders. In fact, itâs got a whole lot of potential leaders. Itâs got talent and skill, but over there you got all these tired old, very old-looking people like Mr Smithâtired and old; use-by date gone decades ago, decades ago. And then youâve got âMyrtle RustâââMyrtle Rustâ, whoâs leading the charge and loses every battle.
đŹ Hon Maggie Barry: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. I take offence and exception to what that member has just described me as and would like an apology.
đŹ SPEAKER: Well, I have a problem here because there was a description used. No member was actually referred to.
đŹ Hon Maggie Barry: Speaking to the point of orderâ
đŹ SPEAKER: Well, speaking to the point of order, ifâno, I am going to say that this appears to be a reference to the member, who has taken offence, and I will ask the Deputy Prime Minister to withdraw.
I withdraw and apologise. I really am so sorry that Iâve offended some person. I mean, when you getâ
đŹ SPEAKER: Order! Iâm going to ask the member to sit down, to withdraw andâI didnât even require him to apologise. If he wants to, he can. He will withdraw, but then he wonât comment on the ruling or on the matter any further.
I withdraw. Can I get back to my subject matter, though. Over there is this leaderless rabble, and theyâve got a man called Simon Bridges, who thinks he will follow the Crosby/Textor narrative and throw out a whole lot of fake news and heâs going to win. I want these members to know right now that weâre going to fight fire with fire, weâre going to fight water with water, and weâre going to drown out that deceit in the next few months as we go to the next election. Thank you very much.
Thank you very much, Mr Speaker. What is going on in the New Zealand First Party? What is going on? What is going on?
Earlier today, we had the extraordinary spectacle of the New Zealand First Party MPs taking, I think, eight different positions on whether or not thereâll be a referendum on abortion. Tracey Martin went on Morning Report and said, âI donât believe we talked about that. Itâs nothing to do with me. I donât know what youâre talking about.â Clayton Mitchell, you know, was happy to provide comment down on the tiles on a Tuesday, but on a Wednesday, he was straight through with âNothing to see here. Move along.â, and I think he went out the back way.
Mr Peters, the Deputy Prime Minister, suddenly does what I think weâd call a âdoing an Andrew Littleââdropping a bombshell on the Minister of Justice. What I want to know is what did Andrew Little do to the Deputy Prime Minister in a past life? It seems like every year the Minister of Justice proposes an ideaâlast year, it was three strikes; this year, itâs having abortion law reformâand then the Deputy Prime Minister comes along and says, âOh, I donât think so, actually.â
âOh, Iâve got a new idea.â Last year it wasâno, that never went to Cabinet: âWeâre not in support of that.â This year, itâs âOh, Iâve suddenly got this grand idea. Weâll have a referendum.â He forgot to tell his caucus.
He forgot to tell his colleagues, and poor old Tracey Martin, the former deputy leader of New Zealand First, was hung out to dry on Morning Report, and now Clayton Mitchell, I understand, is making a run for the deputy leadership. Heâs getting rid of his good mate Fletcherâheâs getting rid of Fletcherâand matua Shane, the caretaker, the chiropractor, of the provinces, is sitting there. Heâs just biding his time. He knows good things come to those who waitâgood things come to those who have loud voices and can go around and sprinkle the pixie dust around the provinces.
So whatâs going on in New Zealand First? Well, no one knows. But letâs talk about the Green Party. Whatâs going on in the Green Party? All I have to say there is how the mighty have fallen. How the mighty have fallen. They signed up to this coalition agreementâor, sorry, I shouldnât say âcoalitionâ because that only refers to New Zealand First and the Labour Party. They signed up to a confidence and supply agreement with the Labour Party, and what does it say? It says that the Greens and the Labour Party will strengthen democracy by increasing transparency around official information. They will âStrengthen ⌠transparency around official information.â
Once upon a time, the Green Party used to stand up here all the time and hector us, actually, about the Official Information Act, and colleagues and Ministers in the last Government will remember the sanctimony from the Green Party. âYou need to release this. You canât wear different hats.â, and, you know, âOh, John Key shouldnât be the National Party leader and also the Prime Minister. You canât do all that, you secretive, corrupt Government.ââall those sorts of allegations and all those claims.
Well, what do we find now? Well, now we find Julie Anne Genter, the Associate Minister of Transport, dancing on the head of a pin so tiny in question time in order to not release the secret letter that she sent to Minister Phil Twyford. Now, people out there listening might say, âWell, why does this matter? Itâs just a letter.â Well, actually, it does matter because the second Mount Victoria tunnel is critical for Wellington and critical for the Hutt Valley, and we need to knowâthe Parliament deserves to know and Wellingtonians deserve to know and the people of New Zealand deserve to knowâwhat was in that letter.
We believe that that letter had a substantive impact on the Letâs Get Wellington Moving final package. In fact, the Minister has even accepted that it had some influence. We know that the second Mount Victoria tunnel was all lined up for 2024, for 2029. Now, itâs on the never-never, and we believe itâs because of that secret letter. It should be released, right? It absolutely should be released.
What are Minister Julie Anne Genterâs excuses? âWell, the Ombudsman says I donât have to.â, except if you go and read the Ombudsmanâs opinion, as I have done, it relates to an email, or emailsâpluralâfrom the Green Party to the Government, OK? There is a case to be made that emails between political parties around consultation should not be released. That is not what we are talking about here. This is not an email from the Green Party to the Government; this is a letter written on ministerial letterhead, as we found out yesterday; signed by the Minister as âJulie Anne Genter, Associate Minister of Transportâ, as we found out today; and sent to her senior colleague, the Minister of Transport. So the Ombudsmanâs opinion provides no factual foundation for the defence.
What else have we heard? The second defence is that it wasnât sent in her capacity as a Minister, except the problem for her there is that Minister Phil Twyford saysâas we found out todayâthat he received a letter from the Associate Minister of Transport Julie Anne Genter. It was signed as Associate Minister, it was sent on letterhead, and sheâs answered oral and written questions about it for the last two weeks as the Associate Minister.
The truth will out in the end, and Wellingtonians will find out just what influence the Green Partyâs had on Labour Party transport policy.
Nobodyâs interested in Mr Bishopâs stupid letter. No oneâs interested in Mr Bishopâs stupid letter. Theyâre interested in Ginny Andersen and in Ginny Andersen taking his seat. We already know that. Thereâs a lot of support for Ginny. Ginny sticks to the issues, and the issues, Mr Bishop, are jobs.
Yesterday, the National Party were waiting. They were waiting for terrible and negative news, and salivating because all their economist mates had told them the sky was going to fall in. The roofs were going to cave in. Everything was going to come to an end. Everything was over because the coalition Government had dared to put up the minimum wage, had dared to treat workers with a bit of equity, with a bit of support, and with a bit of respect. Thatâs rightâa bit of respect.
How dare the coalition Government treat workers with respect? And because of that, the great patriots on the other side wanted the economy to drop, to go through the floor. They wanted record unemployment. This is what the Opposition wanted. They were praying for it. They were praying for negativity. Theyâre great patriots for you, arenât they? Fancy wanting all that negativity. But what happened? They were salivating, waiting. Three point nine percentâ3.9 percent in terms of unemployment, record unemploymentâthe best in 10 years.
đŹ Hon Member: ĹpĹtiki.
Weâll get to ĹpĹtiki. MÄori unemployment is down to 7.7 percent. I mean, things are just getting better and better. I wonder how that happened? Oh, we invested in the peopleâwe invested in the people. Shane Jones went to the regions. We invested in young people. When we go to the regions, they say to us, âNational didnât want to know about us. They just gave us baselineâbaseline funding.â Thatâs what the National Party did. They didnât want to go over the limit. They just wanted to give them peanuts. So in the regions we have heroes, unsung heroes, who never got an opportunity under the previous GovernmentâJack Johnson in the North, Peeni Henareâs whanaunga up there, whoâs investing in young people, going into the forests, getting upskilled, helping with Shane Jonesâ projects. We have a mana wahine team in the North, all run by Jack Johnson. Itâs touching when we go there and they say to us, âWe love you. We embrace you. The last Government forgot about usâdidnât want to know about us.â
We go down to the NgÄti Kahungunu and we meet with the mayor, Sandra Hazlehurst. Sandra cried when we gave her fundingâshe cried. She said, again, Nationalâwell, she didnât actually say that; we said that. But we said, âNational never gave you anything, did they, Sandra?â And she said, of course, âNo. Iâm just so overwhelmed because I have an opportunity to invest in young people through your scheme, He Poutama Rangatahi.â This is the Mayor of Hastings, someone the Opposition doesnât care aboutâalthough Lawrence Yule was there, and I say congratulations to Lawrence. He put politics to the side, and I apologise to him for calling him a disgrace to NgÄti Kahungunu when I was in the House, because he put the politics aside and he came and supported the kaupapa down thereâSandra Hazlehurst.
In ĹpĹtiki, you would have seen the story on the TVNZ news the other nightâan opportunity again. Weâve made more than $1.7 million in investments in ĹpĹtiki with our He Poutama Rangatahi programme, connecting our young people with trade. Then we have the pathways to trades in Tauranga and in Rotorua, giving our people opportunity. Weâre so happy to be able to invest and support our people through He Poutama Rangatahi, through Mana in Mahi, giving people an opportunity. We get the dopey lot on the other side saying to us, âOh, youâve had a 30 percent drop-off in Mana in Mahi.â Weâre proud of that. Itâs a 70 percent success rate with kids and whÄnau. Some of their fathers never work. Some of them come from drug backgrounds. Please tell them: stop asking idiotic and stupid questions about Mana in Mahi. Mana in Mahi is a success. This Government is a success.
So we congratulate Grant Robertson. We congratulate Shane Jones. Weâre well on the way to success, and I think Iâll congratulate myself, too, as the Minister of Employment. Weâre on track. Weâre successful. Get positive, National.
Thank you very much, Mr Speaker. Itâs a pleasure to follow my humble colleague Willie Jackson. On Monday night when Simon Bridges was preparing to go to bed, he asked for two simple things. He needed two numbers to go his way. He prayed for unemployment to go up, because thatâs what he needs, and he prayed for his preferred Prime Minister polling to go up. None of those things happened, and thatâs the cold, hard reality of the negative National Party at the moment. They donât want the best for the country. Even when unemployment goes down, they get upset and angry, because they donât have a positive vision for New Zealand after wasting the opportunity of nine years on this side of the House.
I noticed a difference today in the National Party when the Hon Judith Collins led off the general debate. When I watch the general debate from this side of the House and Mr Bridges leads off, I see a phenomenon which I call the general debate grin. The members opposite donât notice it because they canât see it, but itâs almost like watching people getting on a roller coaster that they donât want to be on. Just minutes before the thing takes off, they get on, theyâre locked in, they canât get out, and theyâre smiling nervously, wondering what the hell is about to happen. But today, when the Hon Judith Collins led off the debate, they were happy. They felt enthusiastic. All the messages were wrong, but you could see the uplift in the National Party caucus.
When I see the general debate grin on the other side, I feel sorry for the National Party, because itâs all in proximity to the leader. If youâre the deputy leader, you have to have the biggest grin, and we see that in Paula Bennett. If youâre in the whipâs chairâand Iâm sorry to single you out, Mattâyou also have to have a big grin. But then when you get out to the periphery of the Chamber and the seats in the House, those who are worried about the polling of the National Party, the grin turns into a grimace, and they know that the more that Mr Bridges speaks in this Houseâor, actually, the more he speaksâthe chances of some of those members on the periphery making their way back to the Chamber after the 2020 election go south very fast.
I want to use one example of Mr Bridgesâ musings last week. I wasnât in the country. I was visiting my parentsâ island nation of Tokelau. The one message I would want to give to Mr Bridges is if youâre going to have a crack at Tokelauans, then youâd better be ready for the pushback. There are only 8,000 Tokelauans in New Zealand, but what Iâm really looking forward to is having 8,000 more door-knockers and delivery people at the next election. They will respect this side of the House and the pride in the fact that they are New Zealanders, and are everyday New Zealanders, and the fact that this Government respects that, and that our Prime Minister will visit their tiny atoll nations and their atolls, because theyâre dealing with everyday long-term issues like climate change.
So Mr Bridges, next time we have Tokelau Language Week in this House, I want you to think long and hard before you take a gift from the Tokelau community, because you canât go dissing them and then taking their gifts. Weâre very happy and humble and noble people, but, Mr Bridges, donât go dissing them when they have the huge privilege of their Prime Minister visiting their country.
Now, enough about them and their doom and gloom, because there is a lot of good stuff happening on this side of the House. Iâve already mentioned Willie Jacksonâs 3.9 percent unemployment rateâheading south like, as I said, Simon Bridgesâ preferred Prime Minister polling. The other side of the House said, âYou canât have low unemployment when youâre lifting wages.â Well, weâve made liars of them. It is possible to make sure that people can have a decent income and create jobs. Thatâs the cold, hard reality.
So my message to the people of New Zealand is youâve got a Government that cares about the things that matter to you, not letterheads, but jobs, incomes, health, and education, and making sure that you stick up for the little people in the world as well. So Iâm very proud to sit on this side of the House, where we are dealing with the long-term issues, and getting on with the issues that that previous Government never attended to. So Iâm looking forward to next Wednesday when we all watch that general debate grin on the other side of the House.
Kia orana, Madam Speaker. Can I just say, following on from the general debate grin, grimace, grin, grimace thing going on on the Opposition side, that weâve figured it out. Weâve figured out the strategy of the Opposition: obfuscation by association. Itâs characterised like this: I think somewhere between yesterday and today, a comment was made that âOne personâs misinformation is another personâs facts.ââOne personâs misinformation is another personâs facts.
Now, this is whatâs going on. Mr Bridges will say one thing, and we know that one of the other members like Ms Collins will say another thing. One personâs misinformation is one personâs facts. So we can figure this out in terms of whatâs going on. Itâs an interesting tag-team approach to ensure that the Opposition is continually confusing the facts. The facts are this: when we came into Government, unemployment was up. When we came into Government, there were more young people not in education, employment, and training. When we came into Government, there were poor health outcomes and poor educational achievement amongst a lot of New Zealanders.
But hereâs the thing, we came into Government with a plan. We werenât satisfied with the status quo. We needed to know that by being a coalition - confidence and supply Government people would feel differently about where the investments we would make would fundamentally make a difference.
Itâs like this: we said we would invest in the regions. The Provincial Growth Fund has delivered so much to our regions. We can go anywhere throughout the country and itâs started a different conversation: local government talking with the business community, the business community talking with the private sector, the private sector talking with employment, education, and training providers. Overall, a whole different vibeâs going on, and those are the facts.
The regional economy is growing in such a way that we then fall to the second priority that this Government had, which was to ensure that people would benefitâthat the prosperity would be shared. The employment statistics, I think, are very positive. And I want to commend my colleague Willie Jackson, because we can say that MÄori unemployment has dropped from 9.4 percent to 7.7 percent comparative to this time last year. Thatâs huge. And what we can say about that is that more MÄori are participating in the economy and more MÄori are seeing the opportunity to contribute to a regional economy that is serving them.
But unemployment generally has dropped to 3.9 percent. Thatâs huge. That is huge. So that just shows that the investments of this Government are really getting cut-through. And then hereâs the other thing, because we know, underpinning a productive regional economy, weâve got to address the issues of productivity. So itâs about lifting the minimum wage and ensuring that we donât maintain a low-wage economy approachâensuring that weâre looking to productivity and weâre looking to raise wages. People see a purposeful opportunity in the way that weâre resetting our investments to grow the regional economy so that more people can benefit.
But I want to come back to young people, because, really, when I came into Parliament it was all about young people. How do they see themselves in the future if led by a Government who has values and wants to make sure that theyâre a part of the next wave of ambition for who we are as a country? I am very, very proud about some of the investments that my colleague Willie Jackson is leading, especially for young people. I think about cadetships, and I look across at some of the really good examples: getting our young people back into planting. Yes, thereâs the billion trees initiative, but, also, restoration of our waterways helps the environmental outcomes. There are so many good things happening. The cadetships that we have throughout the regions, where employers are able to take on young people and track them through to more permanent employment opportunities, alongside apprenticeships, are all the things that build the aspirations of our young people, and that is fantastic.
Hereâs the thing, and Iâm sure young people will get it. Thereâs a saying: âTo have hope is to have wings.â Young people now, under this Government, have hope, because they can see the real, practical benefits on the ground of a Government who is investing in the regional economy, ensuring that theyâre investing in the skills of our young people, the next generation, to take up the opportunities of employment and training and a long-term sustainable pathway for the future. At the end of the day, they want to contribute to the New Zealand weâre building here on this side of the House.
Weâre not confusing things. The facts are that we know where the priorities are. Weâre investing in the issues that really matter for many more New Zealanders so that prosperity can be shared around. We know we canât change everything all at once, but weâre going to give it a damn good try, because our young people and the rest of New Zealand deserve that kind of vision.
That member, the Hon Nanaia Mahuta, was playing fast and loose with the facts, and forgetting to tell New Zealanders that there are 15,000 more people on the dole today then what there was with the change of Government.
But I want to talk about how the Government is playing fast and loose with referendum and electoral law. A year from today the writs will be served for the 2020 election, and we donât know how many electorates there will be. We donât know how many MÄori seats there will be. We donât know what referenda there will be. We donât even know the rules under which that election will be held, and that situation is unprecedented.
This mess is part product of straight Government incompetence, itâs part product of each of the parties in Government trying to screw an electoral advantage out of our democratic system, and itâs part plain arrogance on the part of the Government where power has gone to their head. That is no better illustrated than by members opposite grabbing for Cabinet the exclusive right to decide what referenda will be held at the next election and what the wording of those referenda will be.
đŹ Brett Hudson: Anti-democratic.
That is unprecedented, Iâd say to my colleagueâunprecedented since 1856. Weâve had 52 elections since then. Twenty of those have involved a referendum, and Parliament and the public have had a say in every single one of those.
Then letâs talk about the Government speaking out of different sides of its mouth about the referendum. The Prime Minister says, âOh, the decisions on referendum are nothing to do with me.â Well, thatâs a bit of a problem, Prime Minister, when youâve just introduced a bill to the House to take the power away from Parliament and give it to Cabinet that you happen to share. Then we come to the Deputy Prime Minister. I read on Stuff the headline in the last five minutes with Winston Peters saying there will be a referendum on abortion at the next election. Then the Minister of Justice says there wonât be, and then Tracey Martin also repeats that line.
Can we think of a bigger mess around that? Hereâs the granddaddy of them: Tracey Martin came to Parliament last night and said you canât trust Parliamentâoh, you can trust Cabinet; you canât trust Parliament. Now, what sort of disrespect is that for this institution which is at the heart of our democracy? Hereâs the bit I love: but you can trust Winston and Tracey on referendum, with them, on the same day she says she canât trust Parliament, saying opposite things on whether we will have a referendum. Itâs comical. Itâs a train wreck. New Zealanders deserve much better.
Then we look at the incompetence of the Justice Committee. Do you know the inquiry into the election is now on to its sixth chair? Six chairpeople have been rotated through that role. Do members realise they didnât start the election inquiry until 12 months, and now theyâve got themselves into an awful mess.
Then we come to the dodginess around electoral law. You see, Andrew Little and members opposite should read their speeches from when they were in Opposition, and Iâd particularly invite the Greens to do so. They said electoral law changes should only be made after the Justice Committee. They said, on electoral law changes, there should be consultation with Opposition parties. I acknowledge Amy Adams, the former Minister of Justice, who consulted extensively with Opposition parties on every bill. Then members opposite say there should be a full select committee process on every electoral law.
Hereâs the problem: not once, not twice, but three times, the GovernmentâNew Zealand First and Labourâhave completely contradicted those rules. They are playing fast and loose on New Zealandâs democratic conventions. They are putting the integrity of the next election in this country at risk. If thereâs anything that is important in this Parliament, it is that we respect our democratic tradition, and those who say Parliament canât be trusted should be booted out of office.
Kia orana. TÄnÄ koe e Te MÄngai o Te Whare. Itâs such a joy to have the privilege to take a call in this general debate because, obviously, there is so much that we have to celebrate. Itâs very obvious that we are a Government thatâs tackling the big, long-term issues facing New Zealand. What Iâd like to start off withâI know we have already heard it from a couple of our speakers, but there is so much good news to share. Weâve had the biggest pay rise for workers that weâve seen in a decade: 4.4 percent. We have unemployment at the lowest weâve seen in a decade, actually under 4 percent now at 3.9 percent. Weâve also seen MÄori unemployment at the lowest since 2008 at 7.7 percent.
Now we have more jobs, we have higher wages, but still the Opposition sees this as a glass half empty instead of what should be a glass half full. They try and continue to talk the economy down and down and down. Thereâs so much to celebrate, like I said, but the National Party doesnât like the direction that our country is heading in. Theyâre ignoring the facts of more jobs, record unemployment, and record wage growth. In fact, I heard something this morning on Morning Report. It was Simon Bridges, and he said, âone personâs misinformation is another personâs fact.â That actually makes very clear that thatâs how the National Party operates. They are desperate, theyâre in denial, and with whatever theyâre saying, theyâre trying to just rewrite history.
When talking down the economy, they also use information from the business confidence surveys, and they keep repeating, âOh, business confidence is falling.â This is the graph. Itâs very clear, actually, from historic data here that business confidence and GDP are not at all connected the way the National Party would like us to believe. If you would like to look at this graph and maybe just have a good look at the figuresâbecause these are factsâit shows that business confidence, which is the blue line, continues to fall at times of very strong GDP growth, which is the line in red. Now, that was during the Clark Government. Then, very strangely, from May 2009 at the end of the recession and coinciding with the start of a John Key - National-led Government, it stayed high despite the fact that GDP in that period was actually lower than it was in the previous decade.
đŹ Hon Dr Nick Smith: So whatâs the memberâs point?
My point, Mr Nick Smith, is that this business confidence survey and the assertions there are nothing else than an opinion poll by business leaders. Itâs an opinion poll, and it should not be used to talk the economy down. The facts are positive, and assertions by business executives are really just assertions.
Thereâs a lot to celebrate. Did I mention that this Government is tackling the big, long-term challenges that are facing New Zealand? I think I might have said it already, but we did hear from Minister Willie Jackson before that he is leading some really great programmes for our young people, like, for example, Mana in Mahi. This Government is not a Government that has given up on our young people. We are doing everything we can to get them into meaningful, well-paid jobs.
Also, what we see in the regionsâMinister Mahuta mentioned it previously. A lot of businesses are doing exactly the same, because there is a different kind of vibe, I think the Minister mentioned, in the regions, where there are opportunities for our young rangatahi. Iâd like to name one particular example that I know Minister Willie Jackson opened a couple of months ago in Northland. This is Northpower. Itâs a private business together with People Potential, a private training organisation, and the Ministry of Social Development. They got together to help young people get into highly skilled employment. This initiative helps prepare learners to enter the workforce. It keeps them safe. It gives them access to jobs and opportunities that in the past they would never have had. This kind of regional initiative is what weâre seeing all over the place. Itâs positive. Itâs glass half full, getting our NEETs into well-paid, meaningful work, together with, obviously, all the other really great Government policies that weâve seen.
We know there is a lot to do. We know also that we cannot fix all of that stuff overnight, but under the leadership of our brilliant Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern, weâve started with the job, weâre getting on, and weâre doing all this, because we know there are big, long-term challenges facing New Zealand that we are committed to fix. Thank you, Madam Speaker.
Thank you, Madam Speaker. Well, this Governmentâs playing fast and looseâplaying fast and looseâwith the economy. Weâre growing now at just a fraction over 2 percent. In the first quarter of this year, there was negative job growthânegative job growth. Their mates in the Council of Trade Unions are saying that inflation is rising faster than wages. People are worse off because this Governmentâs playing fast and loose, and, meanwhile, theyâre undoing the great work, the nine years of achievement, of the previous National Government, where the economy was growing at around 4 percent, where a net new 10,000 jobs were being created every month, and where, consistently, wages were growing at twice the rate of inflation. Theyâve undone all that good work. By playing fast and loose, not only are they failing to deliver their promise of building a vibrant economy but theyâve undone all that good work in less than two yearsâless than two years. Thatâs a record in itself.
Theyâre playing fast and loose in expenditure as well. Theyâve got a $3 billion slush fund for Shane Jones to dispense around the country, $2.8 billion committed to fees-free to get fewer students than we had before them, and as a result of that, health boards are in record deficits. Teachers and other public services have been on strike, because, fast and loose with expenditure, theyâve not been able to get their priorities right, and the Public Service is going backwards. Theyâre undoing the good work, the nine years of achievement, under National, with our Better Public Services targets, which saw our health services delivering quality services where New Zealanders didnât have to go to Australia for cancer treatment, where they were getting the drugs they needed, and where our public servants didnât feel they needed to go on strike for better working conditions. Theyâve undone that good work as well.
Well, now they want to play fast and loose on public safetyâfast and loose on public safety. Theyâve got a little coalition agreement for hundreds, if not thousands, of cowboy copsâcowboy copsâroaming around the countryside pretending like theyâre real police officers, putting public safety at risk, and putting their own safety at risk. Their advisers, the police force, are telling this Governmentâin fact, they told them a long time agoâthat if they went ahead with the cowboy cops, theyâd put the public safety at risk, theyâd put the safety of those volunteers at risk, and they would be doing policing on the cheap. How do we know that the police said that? Well, because, finally, the document has been releasedâthe document of police telling the Minister of Police precisely that.
In the release of that document, theyâve shown how the Governmentâs played fast and loose on openness and transparency. The Prime Minister, in the Speech from the Throne, said this was going to be the most open and transparent Government New Zealand has ever seen. When did the Minister of Police receive the advice from police that cowboy cops would be a bad ideaâwhen? In FebruaryâFebruary 2018. In February 2018, the police gave a briefing to the Minister that the cowboy cops was a supremely bad idea, and heâs held on to it for 16 monthsâkept it a secret for 16 months. Even Ron Mark didnât know until yesterday that the police force had told the Minister that it was an extremely bad idea. Sixteen monthsâthat is what openness and transparency looks like to this Government. Well, they failed to deliver on that promise as well.
Meanwhile, what the advice does sayâwhat the advice does sayâis not only does it put public safety at risk, not only does it cheapen policing in New Zealand, but it would detract focus from the promised but not yet delivered 1,800 new police. Well, where are they with that? Well, thatâs worth keeping an eye on. They promised 1,800 new police in three years. Weâre halfway through the term, and theyâve only delivered one-third of that number. We not only promised but funded 1,125 new police staff in Budget 2017, and 880 of those were front-line officers. They havenât even delivered the 880. Thatâs how far behind they are. They simply canât deliver on the promises they make. They are a weak and ineffective Government, but next year is an opportunity to change all that.
I am proud. I am proud to be part of a fast and furious Governmentâfast and furious because weâre a Government of action. Fast and furious, and we cannot and will not apologise with the pace in which we are addressing the long-term issues this country facesâthe long-term issues this country is facingâand we proudly, on the side, take up that challenge.
Iâm proud that we are part of a Government thatâs looking 30 years ahead, not three, and that we are taking on the big issues. One of those big issues is the housing crisis. How have we dealt with the housing crisis? Weâve stopped the State housing sell-off. We are investing in more State houses, and we continue to work with local authorities and iwis around the country to build more affordable homes. Our hospitals and our schools were falling around us because that side did not invest in them, and weâre turning that around. Weâre investing in our hospitals and our schools. Of course, family wellbeing suffered under that last Government, but we have invested through our Families Package, which on average gives $75 dollars to each familyâthat extra boost at this time.
But thatâs not all. Weâre addressing climate change. As we heard in this House today, we have the lowest unemployment: 3.9 percentâthe lowest in 11 years. They call us here the fast and furious Government because thatâs what we are. We are about delivering results, and 3.9 percent unemployment is unprecedented in the last 11 years. But more so, I am proud of the co-chair of the MÄori caucus the Hon Willie Jackson, Minister of Employment, for his commitment to reducing MÄori unemployment to 7.7 percent. That is 6,400 fewer MÄori on the unemployment rate. Letâs celebrate that, because in my neck of the woods thatâs hugely important for 6,400 MÄori families that are no longer dependent on a benefit. That is something that this side want to celebrate.
And, of course, we heard from the Minister for Trade and Export Growth, who said that in the first six months of this year we had $31 billion in export growth, which talks to the heart of what this Governmentâs about: sharing the gains that we receive in this country from the exporters to the factory floors. And thatâs why this Government isâwhat? Fast and furious. Fast and furious, because thatâs what weâre about: weâre about bringing gains to all New Zealanders, addressing the large issues, but also producing results.
I want to say, as the proud member for Ikaroa-RÄwhiti, I want to turn the attention to the love that weâre feeling from this coalition Government: $137 million into the Tai RÄwhiti roading packageâthatâs right. Thank you, Mr Jones, for your investment into our roads up in the East Coast. Thereâs up to $20 million in the purposely built mental health addiction facility in the Tai RÄwhiti.
But thereâs more. We opened the KiwiRail line from Napier to Wairoa, and weâre pleased that we now have a line that goes between our two great cities. And, of course, $60 million was recently invested in the Central Hawkeâs Bay area around water storage.
We understand that there is more to do in this country, but, by goodness, this is a start from a fast and furious Government, and we are going to be here for the long haul, we are going to take all those large issues, and we are not afraid to do that. Of course, I shouldnât overlook the recent announcement by the Minister of Health, bringing cancer analysis closer to the needs in the regions with the recent announcement of the machine that Hawkeâs Bay people are going to benefit by. This Governmentâs investing in the regions. Itâs important that we have this facility so that our people donât have to leave this district.
So I am proud that we have delivered, after 20 months, a fast and furious programme. Thereâs more to comeâthere is absolutely more to come. There is more to come, and, of course, we are going to see the emergence of our polytechs in this country. We hope that it comes to Hawkeâs Bay. Kia ora.
Thank you, Mr Speaker. Fast and furious? Not even close. Last and spurious is much more likely. Last to the party and spurious in their decision makingâthatâs what we have with this Government. Finally, the last speaker, Meka Whaitiri, dared to address the toxic-for-them polytechnic reforms, and I want to acknowledge the member whoâs just resumed her seat for daring to go to those issues which are absolutely deadly for this coalition Government.
I want to talk to the devastating polytechnic reforms that will damage vocational education for many years to come. I want to talk about the impacts of the reforms on the number of learners, regional autonomy, jobs, financial implication, and their own assessment of the likelihood of success. So I donât want to use any of our data; letâs just use what have come out as official documents, and with their own information they will hang themselves on their own bollards.
The key to the polytechnic reforms as announced by this Government are two things: first of all, apprentices moved to polytechnicsâall 45,000 to 50,000 of them moved to polytechnics. The second main strategic objective is that polytechnics are amalgamated. So letâs then look at the impacts of those policies across a range of areas.
First of all, what are the impacts on vocational learners? Again, donât look at our data. Go to page 53 of the programme business case, table 21. What it shows here is that in the short term and the medium term there are 20,000 less learners under these reforms. Be very clear, the narrative says under these reforms there will beâit actually saysâat least 18,000. Itâs not that we can blame the economy, because the economy does have an influence on the number of learners. It specifically says under these reforms there will be nearly 18,000 less learners. That is the impact in the short and medium term of these damaging polytechnic reforms. And remember, at election year, Chris Hipkins said, âIâm going to increase vocational learners by 15 percent.â Really? Actually, by your own documents, youâre going to decrease them by between 18,000 to 20,000.
Letâs look at the impacts of the polytechnic reforms on regional autonomy. The one mega-polytechnic will decide what you teach, where you teach it, and how you teach it. They talk about how they will decide whether you will use online learning. How can that be? How can one universal mega-polytechnic know better than the regions as to how you should deliver a course?
Secondly, what theyâll do is theyâll take your cash assets. And we know what those cash assets are. Yes, they will go up and be ring-fenced into regional community assetsâand, as New Zealand First correctly says, they will be spent back in the regionsâbut who has the decision making about how to spend them? The regions? No; the one mega polytechnic. And this is a big number for a number of polytechnics, and I challengeâ
đŹ Hon Andrew Little: How are NorthTecâs spending decisions?
Thatâs a very good question. NorthTec will actually give up $3.684 million to the one polytechnic because you think you know better than NorthTec. Iâve got news for you: you donât know better than NorthTec. The people of NorthTec know better than NorthTec, and, in fact, the people in the regions know better than this one mega polytechnic. I could go through all the cash assets, but letâs keep moving.
What about job losses? We came out around about 13 February and said thereâd be at least a thousand jobs lost in these reforms. Well, we know there are a lot more. We know there could be up to 1,300 lost as the industry training organisations are disestablished, and we knew there was at least another thousand in the polytechnic sector. Well, now we can confirm it with the documents that were released, where they describe that the efficiencies will be made from management team savingsâ$130 million in management team savings. Which management teams are going to go? Are they coming from NorthTec? Are they going from Christchurch? There are at least a thousand jobs in the management team savings. There are significant job losses in this.
If we have a look at how theyâre going to fund thisâa number of things. Here is the message: fees-free needs to continue to fail to fund the polytechnic reforms. It needs to continue to fail to fund the polytechnic reforms. I know why Willie Jackson is so sad and angry these days. The Prime Minister promised 4,000 Mana in Mahi apprentices. Thatâs been peeled back in Budget 2019 to 2,000âand I know why. Because Cabinet signed off that the Minister of Employment will pay for the regional leadership groups under these reforms, and the document shows itâs $100 million. Heâs got every reason to be unhappy.
And then letâs look at the assessment of this whole devastating reformâtheir own assessment, the Tertiary Education Commission. Will there be workforce disruption? Almost certain. Will the needs of industry and employers not be met? Almost certain. Will the needs of regions not be met? Almost certain. And will the new model not achieve desired outcomes? Likely, and the impact is extreme. These reforms are devastating. They will damage the New Zealand economy.
The debate having concluded, the motion lapsed.
đŁď¸ Spoke in this debate (12)
- Chris Bishop (New Zealand National Party â Member for Hutt South)
- Hon Judith Collins (New Zealand National Party â Member for Papakura)
- Hon Marama Davidson (Green Party of Aotearoa / New Zealand â List Member)
- Hon Kris Faafoi (New Zealand Labour Party â Member for Mana)
- Brett Hudson (New Zealand National Party â List Member)
- Willie Jackson (New Zealand Labour Party â List Member)
- Marja Lubeck (New Zealand Labour Party â List Member)
- Hon Nanaia Mahuta (New Zealand Labour Party â Member for Hauraki-Waikato)
- Rt Hon Winston Peters (New Zealand First Party â List Member)
- Dr Shane Reti (New Zealand National Party â Member for WhangÄrei)
- Hon Dr Nick Smith (New Zealand National Party â Member for Nelson)
- Hon Meka Whaitiri (New Zealand Labour Party â Member for Ikaroa-RÄwhiti)