Misuse of Drugs (Medicinal Cannabis) Amendment Bill
Thank you, Mr Chair. Clause 9 is mostly administrative. It talks to some of the subsets, if you like, of cannabinoids, particularly tetrahydrocannabinol and cannabidiol (CBD). As weāve already expressed previously, and as I believe, cannabidiol is a product that as a National Government we had increased access to. It used to require ministerial discretion and a whole range of other compliance hurdles, and in our hands, we indicated that cannabidiol, we believed, had a safety profile that was OKāmore specifically, that it has negligible psychoactive properties. In fact, if you go to New York, around Central Park, youāll see CBD lollipops. Now, I donāt think we want to go that far because weāre still of the belief that the cannabinoid products are fundamentally a medicine, but it does reinforce the point that thereās a range of evidence that CBD, cannabidiol, may, in fact, be safe.
Furthermore, not just safe. Thereās no point having something thatās just safe; it may well be effective. It seems to be particularly effective in inflammatory, maybe more than anti-spasm sorts of conditions, and we certainly believe what weāre toldāthat it has negligible psychoactive properties.
Now, it turns out there are many parts of the cannabinoids that may well be required and a cannabidiol may well be a better product with a little bit of THC in, and in an earlier clause the committee of the whole House passed through THC analogues. This is, in effect, called the entourage effect, also known as potentiation. What happens there is the CBD is potentiatedāitās made betterāby a little bit of THC. In fact, it also counteracts some of the negative side effects of CBD, and CBD does the same for THC.
So what weāre seeing here in this clause is weāre seeing CBD being asserted around the tetrahydrocannabinols. We can see other variations, or isomers, stereotactil changes, if you like, in a chemical being considered consistent with the initial base of that chemicalāthatās what an isomer isāand what weāre saying here in one of the schedules is basically that isomers of tetrahydrocannabinol that are non-psychoactive or otherwise very, very similar to the core base, that weāre going to group them all together. So administratorsāa lot of chemical mumbo-jumbo in here, but I think it does tighten up parts of this. It doesnāt talk to some of the other cannabinoids that may have a role in the benefits that weāre looking for in medicinal cannabisāthe terpenes, for example.
It seems to be that there may be an entourage effect with the terpenes, besides CBD and THC. Itās not clear to me that thatās covered in this sort of description, but it may need someone more chemically and legislatively analytical than I am to say, āYes, thatās included.ā Iām just highlighting that what we know now about CBD and THC probably includes some of the other cannabinoid products like the terpenes.
There are also other parts of the whole plant that we heard in the Health Committee may well have some benefits. Again, Iām a man of science, so Iād need to see the sort of evidence around that. Theyāre not described here because theyāre not well described out in the environment, either, so that may be something that needs to follow. Also, I guess this whole clause raises the question as to when thereāll be some scientific background or some scientific contributionāmaybe even from a chemical analyst or engineerāon the medicinal cannabis advisory committee that the Minister has spoken about. It would seem that we want to bring the best of science and the best practice to this task, and, as weāre seeing here, it can be quite complex.
So, fundamentally, this clause is dealing with issues that do have some backgroundāissues that we can understand and the general public can understand. Weāll be interested to see if it picks up some of the other products, other cannabinoid components, that arenāt specifically mentioned as to whether they might otherwise be incorporated in further legislation, or whether the belief is that theyāre incorporated here. The question, then, for those people who believe there are other parts of the whole plant besides THC and besides CBDādoes this clause speak to them, as well? Thank you.
The question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 177 in the name of the Hon Dr David Clark to clause 9 be agreed to.
Amendments agreed to.
Clause 9 as amended agreed to.
New clause 9A New Schedule 6 inserted
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- Dr Shane Reti (New Zealand National Party ā Member for WhangÄrei)