General Debate
I move, That the House take note of miscellaneous business.
What a start to the day: two weeks out from the end of the year and the Opposition is feeling it. I remember being 16 years old at secondary school and staging walk-outs just like that, but I had principled reasons for doing it, and Iâm concerned that, actually, on the other side of the House itâs just general frustration and theyâve given upâtheyâve given up.
We did notice who was left behind in their chairs, though, and couldnât help but notice that it was the members who would probably contest the leadership. We had Judith Collins, we had Mark Mitchell, and who was the other one? I think we had Amy Adams left behind at the end of that wonderful walk-out. Then there were the few who probably have aspirations but wouldnât have the votes: people like Nathan Guy and Michael Woodhouse. And then, of course, thereâs always that one person who likes the drama, and that, of course, was the Rt Hon David Carter, who stayed behind to observe what was going on. But while that side of the House is staging walk-outs in frustration and because, two weeks out from the end of the year, they just canât handle it anymore and they just want to go home, this side of the House is just getting on and doing the business.
One year into it and here we are, on this side of the House, with quite a lot to celebrate. In fact, listening to my colleague the Hon David Clark responding to questions from the Opposition, it may as well have been a patsy question from that side of the House, because he had the opportunity to talk about the mental health inquiry and the report thatâs come out, a report that was commissioned by this side of the House because we care about mental health and we know that itâs been neglected for far too long because of a Government previously who took no action with regard to mental health. He was then able to reply that we havenât been paralysed because of an inquiry and, in fact, over the course of the last year, he was able to tell Matt Doocey, âKeep in mind, we put $200 million towards district health boardsâring-fencedâfor mental health, Matt Doocey.â
Keep in mind that, actually, we just announced the extension of the community services card, which is going to see hundreds of thousands of New Zealanders get access to low-cost primary health care. Keep in mind that weâve rolled out nurses to decile 4 schools so that more of our children get the care they need. Keep in mind that we also rolled out the Mana Ake programme to primaries and intermediates in Christchurch and KaikĹura. So any accusation from that side of the House that we have been paralysed in the mental health space because of an inquiry is false, and clearly weâve got lots of evidence to prove that thatâs not the case.
Thatâs mental health. There are so many areas that I could talk about, but the one in particularâgiven that this will probably be my last chance in a general debate at the end of this yearâafter a year as the Minister for Social Development, that I really wanted to touch on was, of course, the Families Package. We came into Government very clear about what our priority was, and that was low to middle income New Zealanders. We showed that commitment by, within those first 100 days, committing $5.5 billion to those families. It was a shift away from the previous Governmentâs commitment to wanting to cut taxes, with a large proportion of those tax cuts going to the highest-income earners in this country. It was much more targeted, and it was the right thing to do.
I want to say that Iâm very proud of the fact that we have rolled out changes and lifted the threshold with regards to Working for Families and that we have a new Best Start payment that recognises the importance of babies in this country, in those first three years in particular. Iâm very proud of the fact that weâve rolled out a winter energy payment thatâs targeted towards beneficiaries, superannuitants, and those on veterans pensions. Iâm very proud of the fact that all of those measures were done under this Government and were done with the right intentions and are targeting the families who need the support in this country.
A year into it, weâre energised. We could keep going. We donât even need a holiday. Meanwhile, that side of the House is staging walk-outs because they just canât handle the heat.
Well, one might call this an extraordinary day or they might not, because itâs just another day that weâve had no answers from the Prime Minister whatsoever on serious issues that this Opposition is putting to the Government of the day. So yes, we want to hear from the Prime Minister what is going on in the Sroubek fiasco and what her involvement is, and whether or not she is going to stand up to a victimâa victimâof that man, and her Government is putting her in danger. So yes, we do demand answers, and, yes, we feel like we stand in this House, day after day, asking straight and direct questions and not getting those answers from the Government.
We will stand here, day after day, and ask questions on behalf of New Zealanders on serious matters that the Prime Minister can duck and can dive and can avoid and can just use a lot of words, but not actually say anything. She can virtue signal and make everyone try and feel better without actually answering the questions that the public deserves, and they know what the questions are. Day after day, theyâve been asked, and they have not been answered. Thatâs not extraordinary, because we get that in this House pretty much day after day, where weâre not getting answers directly to our questions that weâve spent a lot of time on. We understand that thatâs the modus operandi of this Government and how their âmost open and transparent Governmentâ, I have to say, of the day chooses not to answer questions that are put to them straight, but instead to talk around them.
So thatâs not extraordinary in many respects, but, yes, it is extraordinary. Itâs extraordinary today that we saw the Leader of the Opposition and our shadow leader of the House thrown out of the House, and that is extraordinary. Itâs extraordinary in many respects and, I think, a shame for this House, actually, that weâre seeing that kind of thing happen. Itâs a shame that, actually, they did call it out, as they needed to. I find it extraordinary that we have had the shadow leader of the House thrown out for what I thought was a very benign comment, but I suppose thatâs your judgment to make, and the judgment, Mr Speaker, that you have made.
đŹ Hon Chris Hipkins: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. As someone whoâs previously been ejected from the House for reflecting on the Speakerâs decision to eject another member, I wonder whether, in fact, this has gone on long enough. It is out of order to reflect on a decision of the Speaker to ask someone to leave the Chamber.
đŹ Hon Michael Woodhouse: Speaking to that pointâ
đŹ SPEAKER: No, I donât need any assistance, thank you. The member can continue. I think it is an important decision, and discussing around the principles of it, I think, is not a problem.
Thank you, Mr Speaker. Iâm purposely not repeating the things that they have said because I acknowledge that you have made your call and I respect you for thatâin fact, I respect your position in this House. We need a Speaker that is here and that is doing it, and, in that context, Iâm going to get back to the Government of the day and the fact that we are not getting the answers that we need.
I can understand the pressure that is going over when you can see a Leader of the Opposition thatâs actually making a difference and that has an Opposition party thatâs currently at 46 percent in the pollsâso that makes the Government very uneasy. We can understand that the Prime Ministerâs not feeling as strong at the end of the year as she may have been feeling at the beginning of the year and that that pressure is coming on the Government. I mean, we donât see a plan for this country. Actually, I was thinking that, at best, we see ad hoc policy made, and at worst, what weâre seeing is actually horse-trading going on between three parties. So itâs like âWeâll give you this if you give us that.â, but itâs not whether or not that is the best thing for New Zealand and fits in with an actual plan for how we get this great country of ours actually thriving and going better.
So the Leader of the Opposition, the Hon Simon Bridges, will stand up in this House and he will challenge the Government daily, and he has a right to do that. I can acknowledge that the Prime Minister has a right to talk around it and not answer anything, and to think that thatâs pretty clever and that thatâs pretty smart and that thatâs the way that it wants it, but I think that weâre seeing the results of that. I think the public is standing up and saying, âWe want some straight answers from the very straight questions that weâre getting from the Opposition.â
Actually, it is quite serious, because this Sroubek fiasco is incredibly serious. There are still questions that have not been answered by either the Prime Minister or the Minister of Immigration, and now there are questions for the Minister of Police as well. We have a woman that is under protection who feels incredibly unsafe and we have officials that have gone there that should not even know her address, and the Prime Minister and the Minister of Immigration should see that for the seriousness that it is and should be asking those kinds of questions. So when our leader today stood up and asked those questions of the Prime Minister after the fiasco that weâve had from the acting Prime Minister in the House answering on her behalf for the last couple of question timesâfor that to have been dismissed, then, yeah, that makes him a bit angry.
I want to start off by acknowledging the Hon Simon Bridges, in one of his questions earlier on today, for empathetically relating to someone who was feelingâquoteââvulnerable, exposed, and under threatâ. The fact is that right now, as he looks around him, he would know all about that. I want to reflect also on his very, very vibrant support earlier in the week, the Hon Alfred Ngaroâs drive to make life jackets compulsory. Theyâre very, very useful when youâre about to be thrown overboard.
In a spirit of generosity, though, I do want to turn towards the National Party front bench and acknowledge the clear and decisive leadership, the consistent enunciation of clear, progressive values, and the skilful holding of the media spotlight. Thatâs rightâitâs been a very good 2018 for Judith Collins. The problem that that Opposition has at the moment is that after a year of progress under this coalition Government, they simply cannot move out from underneath the shade of bitterness, anger, and resentment that came over them in October of 2017. Until they can do that and actually move into a more positive mode of engagement with the issues that actually affect New Zealanders, they are going to stay on that side of the House.
That is just fine over here, because we are getting on with the job of investing in the well-being of all New Zealanders. Weâre doing that through investing in the basics, in the things that make a difference in real peopleâs lives in our country: decent and affordable housing, affordable and accessible healthcare, a good quality education system, and making sure that the working people of our country are rewarded fairly for their efforts, which has always been something important on this side of the House. Weâve heard about it today: only this week, on 1 December, a new package of initiatives coming in out of Budget 2018 to make sure that Kiwis have access to affordable healthcareâ56,000 thirteen-year-olds now able to access free primary healthcare, and what a difference that is going to make in our communities up and down the country. When youâre a parent, the most important thing is ensuring that your kids are healthy and well looked after, and this is going to take away that barrier of additional cost that was holding back some of our kids from getting the healthcare that they needed. Five hundred and forty thousand community service holders are going to get cheaper primary healthcareâan average of a $20 or $30 per visit reduction in the cost that those New Zealanders will face when they go to the doctor.
That was the different choice, the different priority, of this Government. Rather than putting the money into tax cuts that will disproportionately benefit the most well off, we said itâs the housing, the healthcare, and the education of all New Zealanders that is the most important thing. After one year, we have made so much progress in those areas.
How about the 6,400 new State homes that were funded in Budget 2018? On this side of the House, we know the reality of homelessness and unaffordable housing in this country. Itâs a reality that this Government, unlike the previous one, faces up to. We donât just mouth the words in Opposition; here in Government, we are putting the resourcing in to make sure that New Zealanders have the decency and the dignity of affordable and decent housing. For those Kiwis who are striving away hard on minimum wage jobs, this is a coalition Government across New Zealand First, Labour, and the Greens which believes in a decent minimum wage, which believes in the living wage for more and more New Zealanders, so that those people can put the work in and stand on their own two feet by earning enough to live on with some dignity.
As well as all of those initiatives across housing, health, and education, I think, after one year in Government, one of the things that I am the most proud of is that this is a Government which is in tune with the spirit of justice, decency, and kindness that lies at the heart of the New Zealand national identity. I look back to things like decisions that our Minister of Justice, the Hon Andrew Little, has made, making sure that Teina Pora received his compensation after all of those years of suffering and injustice, when he was treated with callousness and bureaucratic indifference for so many years under that previous Government. I think of the pride that we feel on this side of the House to be a Government that is doing something proactive to try and find out what happened at Pike River and bring those 29 men home if we can.
This is a Government which is in tune with that spirit of decency, of kindness, and of New Zealanders working together. We are not a Government that leaves people behind; we bring them along because we are a stronger country when all New Zealanders are brought along on our national journey. Itâs been one good year of progress, and on the evidence of today, we are looking forward to many, many more. Thank you, Mr Speaker.
Itâs ironic that the Deputy Prime Minister of New Zealand stood in this House and attacked a woman that was brave enough to come forward and actually tell us, share the information, and say that she had submitted under duress a letter of support to someone that didnât deserve a New Zealand residency. You know what? They called her a âNational informantâ, because they donât get it. They donât understand it.
I had a gentleman come to my office three years ago. He was a Labour candidate. He ran for the Labour Party. He was coming to see me because heâd been to see his own teamâthey wouldnât help him with an issue, so he came to me. Did I say, âOh, sorry, youâve been a Labour candidate. Iâm not going to assist you. Iâm not going to help you.â? No, I didnât; I actually helped him with his issue, because thatâs my job as a member of Parliament. I donât care whether you support New Zealand First, I donât care whether youâre a supporter or member of the Labour Party, the Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand, or the National Partyâif you come and ask for help and support, you will get it. Thatâs my job.
The mere fact of the matter is that, actually, the estranged wife of Karel Sroubek has never been a member of the National Party. She has never been involved with the National Party. Sheâs never been involved with politics, full stop. The first point of contact for her, when she realised that she was in trouble because this Government was making bad decisions, was a retired Labour Cabinet Minister. Thatâs who she went to for assistance, and, actually, he gave her good adviceâgood, balanced, objective advice.
I want to take my time to put the record straight. I had a meeting this week with the Hon Iain Lees-Galloway in his office, with three of his officials and with the Hon Michael Woodhouse, who was our immigration Minister for five yearsâa fair bit of experience there. We could tell immediately that the immigration officials were very uncomfortable with the information that we were talking about and the information that was contained in that original file that the Minister had used to make his decision. It became clear very early on that they felt that they had put up a compelling case. Theyâd reached the threshold not once but twice with the information that they had in that file.
The Minister was left with no choice but to deportâto deport someone that had come to New Zealand on a stolen identity, had arrived here, had travelled several times back to a country that he said he wasnât safe in, and when he came to New Zealand, he decided that heâd get involved in the drug importation business. He decided that heâd start to deal drugs. He decided that he would associate with Hellâs Angels gang members, that heâd kidnap people, and that heâd stand over people. He had charges back in the Czech Republic for badly assaulting two police officers and a taxi driver.
So when it came time for him to make his residency application, what did he do to his ex-wife? His estranged wife, the wife that is no longer with himâa Kiwi citizen, a young lady that came to this country at 17 years oldâ
đŹ Hon Todd McClay: For a better life.
Exactly, for a better life. She has become a citizen, has got a very close adopted family around her that, thankfully, have come around and supported her through whatâs been the most traumatic time of her life. She realised that, actually, this was a bad guy. She left. She tried to get out of it. He came to her asking for a letter of support, which she declined, and he put so much pressure on her, including a taped telephone conversation where if she didnât put the content of the letter that he wanted, then she was going to get a visit from people that were going to persuade her to do thatâshe was going to get a visit from people to persuade her to do that.
When I read that letter myself when I got itâwhen I read the letter that this Minister of Immigration came to this House and stood here and told all of us that he had reviewed that file and he was going to stand by his decisionâI could tell within the first 30 seconds that it was completely contrived. If I was the Minister, the first thing I wouldâve done to my officials is say, âGo back and verify this. Go back and speak to the estranged wife, because this looks completely contrived.â Not only was it completely contrived; actually, it was pretty weak. It was very, very weakâwhich brings us to the next point.
We want to know who the representations were made by. Who made those representations? This is the key. This has got a horrible whiff about it, and every day, as we go on, that whiff just keeps getting strong and stronger. Who made the representations? Thatâs the real key to the worst decision this country has ever seen made by an immigration Minister. Yeahâyou can have that look on your face, Mr Speaker. I defy anyone to show me a worse decision that has been made by an immigration Minister when you take into account public safety and you take into account someone that came to this country on false pretences and then engaged in a life of crime, intimidation, and assaults.
Jealousy is a sin. Jealousy is riddled through the other side of the House. Number one, we have the leaks anonymously flowing day by day; secondly, we have the bullying, the echoes of which grow day by day. In fact, we are now marrying the bullying to the leaking. But how did the leader decide he would quell this new type of destabilising activity, reaching levels we havenât seen before? He decided, with his top team this morning, that they would stage a deliberate walkoutâa clearly conceived, orchestrated campaign, under the rubric of changing the narrative.
Well, the narrative is, number one, a deeply divided, tired group of politicians who have not achieved much of anything on that side of the House as they come to Christmas; a large group of youngsters desperate to seize control of the agenda, and then to go and begin deliberately leaking, like the Wally Haumaha - related leaks. And what did that show? It showed that the man had a completely clean bill of health despite the fact of deliberate, poisonous, insidious leaks from backbenchers on that side of the House.
Now, unfortunately, that drip, dripânot unlike Chris Carter in days of oldâis starting to intrude within their own esprit de corps, within their own ethos. But I have read recentlyâin fact, last weekâthat scientists in America have determined that alien life is already here on Earth. Itâs sitting on the other side of the House. They are alienating themselves from whoever they conceive to be their supporters. They are relying on alien-like sources of information to drip down into the various silos of the fourth estate.
Meanwhile, with my characteristic modesty, I toil in the vineyards of the provincial New Zealand economy. I have had the pleasure of showing up how lacklustre and disinterested the Aussie-owned banks are in working effectively with New Zealand businesses. And what do we see from the other side of the House? Defending those stupendous salaries; defending that extravagant, unfettered level of privilege enjoyed by the Aussie banks. But wait: my colleague who sits over here, Mr Faafoi, has a profound body of policy work under way, and I only hope the remit passed by my party, the remit imposing a long-overdue levy on the uncaring Aussie banks that are hollowing out regional New Zealand.
Iâm also, I have to say, continuing to plant trees. Now, some might say, as I did on telly, that Iâm Hana KĹkĹâa bit like Santa Claus. There has to be a bit of colour and personality. I have to say, I am not Oprah Winfrey, but there is probably a tree under your chair, Mr Mitchell.
We will not be deterred from working with NGOs, working with businesses, and working with the banking fraternity that those who seek to redeem themselvesâbecause coming their way is a whole host of bad news from the royal commission in Australia, and when that news comes out, I guarantee you that they will be seeking ways to work more effectively with our Government, because what we smell on that side of the Tasman, itâs impossible that such a taint is not on this side of the Tasman. But that pleasure awaits the banking industry and those reformers, lucid thinkers, and clean pairs of hands, like the first provincial citizen standing before you.
Now, I want to wind up here and say itâs very disappointing that New Zealand voters have seen our colleagues on the other side of the House abandon the ship. They say that before the ship strikes aground, the rats go first. As we say in MÄori, ko te kiore puta wauâthe rats go first. Well, Iâm not going to condemn Mr Simon Bridges to that kind of epithet, but the fact that today heâs seen wearing a life jacket as the waka goes down and they all fleeâvery portentousâvery portentous.
I want to start by thanking the Hon Shane Jones for his sermon today. He may be good at saving souls, but heâs not going to solve the problems the current Government faces. He has another crack at the Aussie banks, suggests they should pay a levy of $100 million because they shut down the odd provincial bank around the country. Heâs the associate Minister for State-owned enterprises, and Kiwibank and New Zealand Post are closing branches all around the countryâall around the country. Thereâs a word for it, Mr Speakerâit begins with âhâ, ends with âyâ. I wonât dare use it; youâve had enough difficulty today, but itâs fairly obvious to most people who listen to the Hon Shane Jones.
Today, I have never seen a Prime Minister look so uncomfortable. As we continue to ask questions about one Mr Karel Sroubekâ
đŹ Hon Damien OâConnor: I can list many times: Bill English, John Key.
âthe Prime Minister dodged all the questions today. She might think the story will go away over the Christmas break; Iâve got a message for her: this story wonât go away over the Christmas break. When we come back in February and work through to March, mark my words, Hon Damien OâConnor: the truth will come outâthe truth will come out.
But today, I wanted to devote my time to asking the Hon Shane Jones whatâs going on with Landcorp. Landcorp claims to be a leader of the New Zealand agricultural sector. A lot of farmers I know donât particularly like Landcorp, and after the events of the last few days, most farmers will despise Landcorp, under Mr Jones as the responsible Minister, because what Landcorp did is they went to the Tax Working Group not on time. Somebody asked them to put the submission in. It was one month after all other submissions had closed. Every other submissionâ6,700 of themâwent immediately on the website; for some very strange reason, the Landcorp submission did not go on the website. When we finally got hold of a copy of it, it advocates for a nitrogen tax, a water tax, and a capital gains tax. I ask the Hon Shane Jones, as the responsible Minister for Landcorp, whatâs Landcorp doing even making a submission to the Tax Working Group and advocating for three new taxes which will damage the agricultural sector more than any other sector in New Zealand?
Note that Mr Shane Jones has gone quiet on this occasionâthe first citizen of the provinces hasnât got an answer to my question. When he goes back to his office, I suggest to him that he have a look at the board of Landcorp, because he said in the House today that they knew that a submission was being made. He didnât tell us in the House today whether they knew what was in that submission, but I suspect that if they look carefully and ask the question of the board, heâll find the board were absolutely hoodwinked by that submission. And if they werenât hoodwinked, then what he should do is look at the qualifications and the suitability of every board member on Landcorp. Because if theyâre going to be there advocating against New Zealand farmersâ
đŹ Hon Damien OâConnor: A bunch of tired old Tories you have there.
It might suit the Hon Damien OâConnor, whoâs not respected by New Zealand farmers and not admired by New Zealand farmersâheâs known not to be an advocate for New Zealand farmersâbut donât let the same thing happen to Landcorp.
While the Minister Shane Jones goes back to his office to sort out the Landcorp board, he needs a board that will sort out the management within Landcorp. The environmental reference group, under the chairmanship of a Marnie Prickett, and also supported by the likes of Guy Salmon and Dr Alison Dewes, will not be there advocating for New Zealand farmers. When he has a look then at the chief executive Mr Steve Carden, get the board to ask the real relevant questions. Because Iâm told Mr Steve Carden intends to stand for the Labour Party at the next election, and if he does he should resign his job now and stand as a candidate for the Labour Party and take his chances atâ
đŹ SPEAKER: Order! The memberâs time has expired.
Mr Speaker, thank you, very much. Whoo! What an afternoon. I was just saying to people over the weekend when they were saying, âLook, we donât want to watchââ[Interruption] Whoo! When I was trying to convince them to watch the parliamentary TV, then what better TV to watch this afternoon? But can I just say that when I dropped off my 3½-year-old yesterday, it reminded me of just that. There was talking here. They couldnât hear it properly. Someone stormed out. Someone told someone else. And then the whole lot sort of stormed out of the room from getting the plasticine into the sleep room. Amazing! Who would have thought, 24 hours later, Iâm seeing it in the Parliament of New Zealand. But here it is, throwing toys out. God, how exciting! And what was more exciting, actuallyâI was just watching the member for Hutt South, Chris Bishop there. He was thinking, âIs this my chanceâis this my chance?â
đŹ Kiritapu Allan: A contender.
No, no, no. He was. He looked around, back, forward, and over there: âIs this my turn?â He sort of had the package ready to go, and to go from there to thereâlike, âCould I do it?â
đŹ Jamie Strange: He had the press release ready to go.
Could he do it? He had the press release ready to go, Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, Twitter, anything else, and he was ready to goâHeather du Plessis-Allan as well, over here. But look, he was ready to go and I thought âIs this it? Am I going to witness an historic moment?â But it wasnât to be. Look, this could have been true history in the making, but not today. So the anger, the frothing at the mouth, the kids play, the toysâwhoo! Iâm excited.
But what I want to say is this: Iâm really excited at the fact that itâs taken me about six months to get a speaking slot in the general debate.
đŹ Hon Member: And youâve wasted half of it.
Yeah, yeah. No, no. They always save the good ones for the exciting moments, and thatâs why Iâm here today. They roll me out because they know that today is going to be the big day, and it happened when I last spoke and it happened again this afternoon. I always get the big days. I love it. I donât know why. Itâs karma. I donât know why. But in that speech I talked about the dark clouds over the Rongotai electorate, but guess what? On Friday, the dark clouds were removed because the Rt Hon Prime Minister came and opened my electorate office and instantly, the 150 peopleâNational Party voters, I have to say, were added into that listâlooked up in Newtown and the skies opened and what they saw was hope. They saw heart. And thatâs what the Prime Minister spoke about. She spoke about hope and heart, and I thought âNow, thatâs a Prime Minister giving people the real message.â Look, I was just so relieved that when I looked up, I thought, âNo more. No more dark clouds. Weâve given people hope.â She talked strongly about an MP who had heartâthatâs me, by the way. It was me. And I thought: what can we put on the electorate office wallâmaybe a painting of a heart or my photo with the Prime Minister? But I digress. What I want to talk about, really, is the hope that she gave and that this Government is giving to at least the people of Rongotai but, I know, all of New Zealand.
Look, I come back to that familiar ground that I love talking about, and thatâs housing. Everywhere I look in Rongotai, thereâs houses being built and I think âThank you.â to the Minister of Housing and Urban Developmentâthis new cut-through agency, the Urban Development Authority. What a name. Itâs going to get building, itâs going to look after tenants, and itâs certainly going to work with the private sector and the community, to say âLetâs get building again.â I have the electorate where the first State house was built and opened. I only wish theyâd open the first KiwiBuild house in Rongotai too. Never mind, thereâll be a new initiative and Iâll make sure that Rongotai gets the benefit of that too.
But I digress again. This is a Government thatâs delivering hope, with MPs and members of a coalition Government who truly have heart. Look, can I encourage those who are watchingâall seven of youâthat this is the channel to watch. This is where the excitement comes from. And, look, when Iâm back in nine monthsâ time, Mr Speaker, you can expect another riveting speechâ
Order! The memberâs time has expired.
Look, Iâm very pleased to speak in this general debate. I just want to start by following on from the member that weâve just heard, Paul Eagle. [Paul Eagle gestures to another member] Why doesnât that memberâ
đŹ SPEAKER: Order! The member will resume her seat, please. That sort of action between two members is not appropriate within the House. If the members want to carry on that way, they should leave the House.
I just want to follow on from that member and ask that member if he really would turn up to the tens of thousands of teachers in New Zealand that have said theyâre going to be striking at the beginning of next year and tell them that this Government is about hope and heart, given that we have had not only three offers that have been rejected by the teachers but also that this Government has, what I consider to be, a bit of a five-step plan for those people that disagree with them.
The first step in that plan is to blame National. Despite having billions of dollars in surplusâbillions of dollars in surplusâthey will blame National even though we had the global financial crisis and the earthquakes. We see that on every issue. Weâre 13 months in. There is no responsibility whatsoever taken by one single Minister. Every time they get upâand we hear it from the members of the publicâitâs always Nationalâs fault.
The second thing that they do is they run a mile from their promises. So in education alone, as I said before, we have got strikes looming. They made huge commitments. They said they were going to end donations. Chris Hipkins went and told Hilary Barry he was going to end donations in the first Budget. It hasnât happened. They promised that thereâd be a special education coordinator in schools. Theyâve scaled that back. They promised that they were going to modernise every single classroom. Again, we donât hear anything about that.
The third thing that they do is they run down anyone that criticises them. And we see that all the time, in Opposition. An example of that is these videos that have appeared around the strikes. Weâve never heard of this before: Ministry of Education propaganda videos around the Governmentâs offer. But, again, they run down those people that criticise the Government, because that is part of their strategy to stay in power.
Letâs look at this particular issue. If youâre a teacher that thought that you were promised more than 19 education promises that havenât been deliveredâwhat they then do is they give their money to their coalition partners. So whoâs getting money? In November alone, we have seenâand I take the Ministerâs pointâsomewhere between $700 million and $900 million more expenditure. Who is that going to? Itâs going to Shane Jones and other members, to ensure that the Government stays in power. Itâs going into trees and racehorses, rather than supporting teachers around their workload and pay. The reality is that that is part of their plan to stay in power, and that is a bad culture.
Look, many members in this Houseâas Iâve said beforeâcome here to make a difference. We want to support teachers. The reality is that there are teacher shortages at the moment. National did an amount, but we need to ensure that, through this collective bargaining, we do support teachers. This Government has billions of dollars in surplus, and it is not OK to sayâlike Chris Hipkins saidâthat thereâs no more money, when more than $700 million has been announced in the last month alone; when $2.8 billion has been given to tertiary students, and might I add that that is a failed policy because we are not seeing the participation and we are not seeing disadvantaged groups being helped. So itâs quite right for a number of teachers to be out there saying, âWhat about us? Why are we not the priority?â And Iâll tell you what, parents support them. The conversation that Iâm hearing at the school run and the conversation that I am hearing on the ground is that this Government rode into power with a group of coalition partners that promised a kinder country, and the people that they are not supporting are teachers. When it comes to pay and workload, at a time when weâve got larger choices, they have the least priority.
Trees are a priority, racehorses are a priority, tertiary students are a priority, but what does Chris Hipkins say? He basically calls them greedy. He goes out there with a propaganda campaign. Well, hereâs my message to the Minister: people remember broken promises. You have a once-in-a-generation chance to ensure that we do the right thing around workload and pay. Teachers have sent a very strong message with three rejections of the offer. Get back to the tableâunlike what he told us todayâand provide another offer so that we can ensure that weâve got teachers in classrooms and that we donât continue to have the disruption that weâve had.
This is a Government that runs down critics. This is a Government that doesnât prioritise areas like education. This is a Government of failed promises.
E Te MÄngai, tÄnÄ koe. TÄnÄ koutou e Te Whare. I want to speak about the most recently releasedâreleased yesterday, actuallyâreport of the Government Inquiry into Mental Health and Addiction. It was, obviously, released yesterday. This report encompasses the findingsâhaving spoken to 2,000 people at 26 meetings around the country, and of 5,200 submitters.
I want to speak to the breadth of this consultation because I think that itâs incredibly important to drive home that this is a once-in-a-generation opportunity. The last inquiry which we saw into mental health in this countryâthe last nationwide inquiryâoccurred in the 1990s, after the 1980s through 1990s closure of a number of institutions, whereby people who were institutionalised were released back out into their communities. A kind of moral panic response resulted, and it was important that we as a society looked into how we best look after each other.
However, this inquiry goes far broader than those past inquiries. It has far wider terms of reference, particularly in looking beyond the health sector and services and into social determinants of mental ill health. But, notably, it also goes further than just looking at mental ill health by itself, and includes the problem of addictions and abuse of alcohol, gambling, substances, and other drugs. Notably, 50 to 80 percent of New Zealanders will experience mental distress or addiction challenges or both in their lifetime and a large number of people will experience those two things coexisting. I just want to point to something which is mentioned in this report as a result of those numbers of submissions, where the inquiry board says âWe were told that addiction is the opposite of connection, a taniwha that isolates users and holds them in its grip.â
What are we talking about when we talk about mental health and addiction? I think if we flip the issue on its head, ultimately weâre talking about well-being or, perhaps, a lack thereof. Weâre talking about things like community, care, kindness, empathy, connection, purpose, and meaning. And those last two are critical, because purpose and meaning are critical to a sense of identity and a sense of belonging and a sense, indeed, of well-being. But it is difficult to find that purpose and that meaning if you canât navigate your way through life under enormous amounts of stress and strain. Over the past few months, Iâve been travelling around the country speaking at hui, particularly to university students, on the issue of mental health, and I think someone put the point most eloquently when they said that they canât afford to make mistakes.
When you canât financially, emotionally, or otherwise afford to make mistakes, you canât find your feet. When itâs too expensive to do that, I think that itâs a matter of course that people are experiencing mental ill health and issues. These environmental factors of income, health, education, and housing are critical, because more and more research and evidence is showcasing that thatâs how most mental health issues end up emerging, and even if you have underlying psychological or biological susceptibility, it is exacerbated.
The biggest factor that informs the environment that we as people and society live in is our culture, and culture, by definition, is a shared set of values. We do not presently have a culture that values or prioritises well-being. We do not currently have a culture that values or prioritises people. Instead, we seem to have a culture which values individualism and competitionâwhich isnât by itself a bad thing, but is when it runs away from us and turns into a culture of isolation.
I think that this culture is, unfortunately, perhaps, most manifest in our Parliament and our parliamentary culture, which, I note, is supposed to be representative of Aotearoa New Zealand. In this House I have sat here and I have listened to jokes about the mental health of other members and about the drugs or medication that they may be on. Today I am standing up and saying that that is not good enough, and we, as representatives in this country, have to hold ourselves to a higher standard. I presume we will have a conversation about the expenses inherent in this report, but good manners donât cost anything. Kia ora.
Thank you, Mr Speaker. Well, this morning Chris Hipkins, the Minister of Education, announced the co-location of Marlborough Boysâ and Girlsâ Colleges on the Bohally McLauchlan Street site, which is a very good decision which I applaud. However, while the announcement has been welcomed, I note through my Official Information Act documents that I requested that, in fact, the Minister delayed this whole process by going back and revisiting the business case. So we are now 12 months down the track and we have exactly the same position that we did prior to opening that up. So weâve lost 12 months; the work is virtually stopped where there was a whole lot of work that could be done before a site was selectedâand there were some problems in finding a site, I admit that, and it was quite difficult to find an appropriate site. However, one has been found and Bohally will go over to Marlborough Boysâ College. Weâll have two colleges located on the same site, which will be a massive opportunity for the education prospects in Marlborough, because we can now have a wider range of subject choices with the two colleges being co-located.
Also, there is the opportunity for a major step change with the likes of the New Zealand School of Winegrowing which is operating in Marlborough, which is quite an innovative innovation in Marlborough where level 2 students can do their level 2 NCEA with a wine focus. So they get their literacy credits through doing geography, for example, on wine regions of the world. They can do the chemistry credits through doing wine chemistry, and who would not find that interesting to do a practical experiment that they can see the outcomes for. And I see youâre smiling there, Mr Speaker; I can assure you theyâre not able to drink the wine while theyâre at school. But children need to have that link, and students doâwhen we can see a purpose, we can see something at the end of it, they will engage much more. To keep people engaged in the education system is a great thing, and there are more opportunities to tailor our education system in that way to keep young people engaged. So I applaud the decision, but I think we have let 12 months go by which, perhaps, shouldnât have.
Now Iâd like to turn to Landcorp. We heard the Rt Hon David Carter speak about this earlier in the debate. Landcorp owns 385,000 hectares, with a book value of about $1.7 billion. The last two years it hasnât returned a dividend to the Crown. I think it is a leading farming organisationâitâs leading the low returns stakes. Itâs a waste of New Zealandâs resources to have all that money tied up in Landcorp. Now, the reasons Landcorp is there are historical, and, certainly, some of the land thatâs there has been held aside for Treaty settlements. Thatâs right and proper, and we should ring-fence some of that land for future potential Treaty settlements. However, we went into the last election with a policy of freeing up that land to sell for lease-to-buy options for young farmers and using the profits from those sales to really get into the bottom of highly efficient and innovative farming methods, which is something that Landcorp could do. Having our moneyâthat is, the Crownâs and the taxpayersâ money, ultimatelyâtied up in an investment like that which could and should be in private handsâand I think it should be a fair way of going about it.
Incidentallyâand Iâm sure, Mr Speaker, you will rememberâthere were balloted farms back through history, through the wars and post-war periods, to allow people to get on the land, and this is a perfect vehicle to do that. Itâs not people getting a free ride, but it is an opportunity to get the land back into productive individual farmersâ hands. They would have to work hard for it at market rates, but itâd be a stepping stone for those people to get on that ladder, and I think itâs high time that happened.
Iâm absolutely appalled that they went to the Tax Working Group in what weâve now heard was a very secret wayâwhere their submission wasnât published, they came in with a late submission, and then, ironically, they submitted on a nitrogen tax when they were responsible for the clearance of a massive area of forestry on the central plateau, which led to very real concerns about nitrates in the Waikato catchment. And now, to turn around and say, âWell, you know, we really should have a nitrate tax.â, itâs a bit rich, I think. And then, when they talk about a capital gains tax, which would not actually apply to them, I think itâs appalling. Thank you.
The Bible tells us that when Jesus was crucified, the veil was torn from top to bottom and people got to look into the tabernacle. Today, the veil was torn from the National Party, and we got to see what was behind the veil. What did we see? We saw an Opposition in disarray. We saw an Opposition, because they didnât like the answers they were given, take industrial action. We saw the National Party showing their true colours: a party for the unionsâa party for the unions. We saw what sits just below that veneer: that they want to be united. They sort of drifted out, one by one. It was a bit of a messy sort of movement. But we saw behind the veil.
I fully support the right of the National Party MPs to take industrial action, and I suspect they will now support the Employment Relations Amendment Bill, which is up next.
đŹ SPEAKER: Order! Yeah, thatâs up next, and the memberâs not going to refer to it again.
Apologies, Mr Speaker. Iâd just like to help the National Party just a little bit with a couple of slogans that they could maybe work on, you know, for their new union-based party.
First of all, whoâs going to be the boss of this party? I had to look around and I thought: who is the hard-core union boss? I looked at Mark Mitchell: that steely look in his eye, the firm handâMr Mitchell, I believe youâre the man, maybe with your sidekick Erica Stanford.
But letâs look on to what the Governmentâs been doing this year. What a year weâve had. In contrast to the Opposition party floundering around, we have a Government who are organised, we have a coalition Government who have a clear plan, and weâre getting on with the job of governing.
Iâd just like to highlight a couple of key points here. The first one is housing. At the election in 2017, we heard loud and clear from the New Zealand public that people wanted action on housing. The previous regime were floundering around the edges not taking action. This Government, in the first year, have already taken action on housing. Our Minister the Hon Phil Twyford has done a number of things. The first one is heâs starting to address homeownership. There is a huge issue in this country about people being able to afford their first homes. In the city of Hamilton, where Iâm based, 42 percent of Hamiltonians are renting, and the vast majority of them would like to own their own home, but itâs getting out of reach. I am proud that this Government has started a scheme called KiwiBuild.
đŹ Hon Mark Mitchell: KiwiBuildâs even more expensive.
Weâre under way, Mr Mitchell. We are under way, and the targetsâweâre on target to reach them.
Another area is rental fairness. Iâve been a landlord. My wife and I have had a number of rentals over time, and we understand the importance of the relationship between the landlord and the tenant. Itâs important that we have fairness in the rental market. There is a power imbalance, and weâre working hard around that. Healthy homes is another area weâre working on. Itâs important that homes are warm and dry, particularly for children. That would be healthy.
The second one Iâd like to touch on is the Provincial Growth Fund. Iâd like to acknowledge the Hon Shane Jones for the wonderful work that he is doing in this areaâthe champion of the regions. And I know the Opposition are absolutely obsessed with Minister Jones. Theyâre excited about the work that heâs doing. In my regionâ[Interruption] I canât hear what the membersâyouâre all talking at once. The discussions that are taking place within the regionsâthereâs a lot of excitement around the Provincial Growth Fund. Business cases are being formed. Feasibility studies are being done. For the first time in a long time, the regions are being listened to. The regions have a voice.
Iâll finish on the economy. The economy is in good heart. GDP growth: 3 percent per year forecast. Weâre running a surplus. The Opposition have short memories. The previous Labour-led Government ran nine years of surpluses, and this coalition Government are running surpluses, and I expect that they will continue. Weâre putting money aside for a rainy day. Iâm proud of what this coalition Government has achieved.
Thank you, Mr Speaker. Wasnât that a fantastic speech. I had every intention of responding to Jamie Strange, but I think weâve heard from the Labour Party research unit about four or five times today. What Iâll do instead, though, is I really enjoyed the contributions by my colleague Stuart Smith and also byâI was going to say Paul QuinnâPaul Eagle, across the Chamber. Not Paul Quinn any more, thankfully.
đŹ SPEAKER: Itâs all the same, really.
Paul Eagle, across the Chamber. What Stuart was talking aboutâwhat I thought was fantastic, actually, because heâs been pushing it for a very long time and, finally, we have the Minister of Education catching up and putting a very significant investment into Marlborough through a joint college. Of course, Paul Eagle, our colleague from Rongotai, was very excited because the significant investment in Rongotai is a brand new electorate office. After 14 months, heâs finally got an office. So well done, Paul.
But I want to talk about investment in mid-Canterbury and South Canterbury this afternoon because weâve seen significant growth in that region in the last seven or eight years, in particular, largely under a National Government. What thatâs meantâwhat that growth has meantâis there now is enormous pressure on the existing infrastructure that exists, particularly north of Ashburton, in relation to State Highway 1. Itâs a critical transport corridor of the South Island, and itâs become far more dangerous.
Just to put some numbers on that, over the last 15 years alone, international visitors into New Zealand have doubled, and we are seeing a lot of that transportâa lot of that trafficânow flowing down the east coast of the South Island as more and more international visitors get out of buses and move into independent transport. Weâve also seen a lot of growth around Timaru, with PrimePort, where the number of ships entering in to PrimePort has gone from 350 just a few years ago to now 500, and thatâs being reflected across the whole South Canterbury economy, particularly as that transport moves through to the inland port of Rolleston.
All of that traffic has increased and caused traffic numbers to have doubled in the last 20 yearsâtraffic volumes have doubled in the last 20 years on State Highway 1 between Ashburton and Christchurch. The unfortunate effect of that is that the road has become far more dangerous, and I get people coming into my office every week saying that they no longer feel comfortable travelling on that road, because they feel too nervous about it. Unfortunately, those numbers have been reflected in statistics. Weâve seen, since 2000, 128 fatalities and serious crashes on that road, making it the second-most dangerous stretch of highway in the country.
So whatâs the Government done since theyâve come in? Well, unfortunately, we had plans to four-lane that highway between Ashburton and Christchurch to reflect the huge growth that thereâs been. So whatâs the new Government done?
đŹ Hon Damien OâConnor: Nine years of Nationalânothing done. Outrageous!
Well, unfortunately, theyâve shelved it, and the reason theyâve shelved it is theyâve ripped $5 billionâ$5 billionâout of the State highway network. Theyâve taken it out of regional economies and put it into Aucklandâsolely into Auckland rail and cycleway projects.
Mr OâConnorâheâs gone very quiet over there, because he knows this. He knows about the significant investment we put into the Coast through the new bridge, which that member never did when he was in Government. But that wonât happen under a Labour Government because the money just isnât there.
Thatâs not the only thing. Thatâs not the only handbrake to growth in the mid-Canterbury and South Canterbury economy at the moment. The second one is immigration. Before the last election, the Labour Party came out with a plan to reduce net migration by 20,000 to 30,000 per year. Unfortunately, thatâs now started to bite. Weâve seen immigration numbers come off by about 10,000 since they came into Government. I look at my electorate of Rangitata, particularly in Ashburton, where youâve now got 500 vacancies in a district of 34,000 peopleâ34,000 people and 500 job vacancies. Itâs having a serious impact on the growth of our economy. Itâs holding back employers from future growth.
So whatâs been the response to that from this Government? Well, unfortunately, weâve had silence. Iain Lees-Galloway came down to Timaru in March. We havenât heard a peep from him since. He promised new immigration settings would be in place before the end of this year. Well, itâs now December and we havenât seen anything of it. Whatâs been his focus? His focus has been defending his botched decision to grant residency to convicted drug smugglers.
So in the House today, we had front-bench National MPs asking serious questions of this Government about that process, and they refused to answer. They refused to answer. There was not a single straight answer out of the Government about why Iain Lees-Galloway granted residency to that convicted drug smuggler, and not a single answer about the protection of his estranged wife. This Government has refused to answer basic questions. Thatâs their responsibility, and itâs our right to ask them.
The debate having concluded, the motion lapsed.
đŁď¸ Spoke in this debate (13)
- Hon Paula Bennett (New Zealand National Party â Member for Upper Harbour)
- David Carter (New Zealand National Party â List Member)
- Paul Eagle (New Zealand Labour Party â Member for Rongotai)
- Andrew Falloon (New Zealand National Party â Member for Rangitata)
- Shane Jones (New Zealand First Party â List Member)
- Hon Nikki Kaye (New Zealand National Party â Member for Auckland Central)
- Sir Rt Hon Trevor Mallard (New Zealand Labour Party â List Member)
- Hon Mark Mitchell (New Zealand National Party â Member for Rodney)
- Hon Carmel Sepuloni (New Zealand Labour Party â Member for Kelston)
- Stuart Smith (New Zealand National Party â Member for KaikĹura)
- Jamie Strange (New Zealand Labour Party â List Member)
- ChlĂśe Swarbrick (Green Party of Aotearoa / New Zealand â List Member)
- Hon Michael Wood (New Zealand Labour Party â Member for Mount Roskill)