Patents (Advancement Patents) Amendment Bill
Thank you, Madam Assistant Speaker. I congratulate the member for having this bill drawn. Unfortunately, itâs not a bill that weâre going to support on this side of the House, and I think to justify that positionâand I accept that itâs a position that must be justified, because at first blush this might look a good ideaâwe need to go back and understand, really, what patents are all about.
What patents do is they lock up knowledge. They are, in effect, a statutory monopoly, so real caution is required before we extend the abilityâbefore we extend the State endorsementâof prohibiting others from using what are, by definition, good ideas. Now, patents and monopolies have been around for a long timeâsince the 1400s, in factâand for a long time they were used quite inappropriately, really, as a revenue-gathering means. But the balance to be struck, when weâre looking at extending patent law, is a balance between the free use of intellectual property, the ability of people to take the normal arts that are used in manufacture, in producing food, and in embarking upon all kinds of endeavour, and rewarding people for good ideas so that they can in fact be incentivised to embark upon that.
Now, under the current lawâand I must say, the current law has been centuries in the makingâwe have a very clear step, and that is the inventiveness step. This mustnât be something which is obvious. If we are going to give someone the absolute dominion over this idea, they have to show that it is a flash of geniusâsomething that doesnât leap immediately to mind but is a real and significant furtherance of knowledge; a really new way to do things.
Now, what we have proposed by the member is an advancement step, and by definitionâin fact, in her bill she sets out and points out thatâthis is less than an invention step. I must say, even on a mechanical basis, I struggle to see exactly how that would work, and we know for a fact that itâs failed elsewhere.
One of the real problems that has occurred is that if we extend this ability to too low a threshold, it simply means that silly ideasâin fact, there was an invention in Australia of a pizza box that could be used as a bib. Now, handy as it might be, itâs not something we need a patent for. We donât want people locking up ideas and shutting people out. Interestingly, this is used in Australia not by small businesses to innovate but by large businesses to appropriate knowledge to themselves and shut out small players, and thatâs not what we need in New Zealand.
We think that the current law strikes an excellent balanceâan excellent balance between a relatively significant inventiveness threshold and a good reward for those that cross it. What we donât want is a quick and dirty system where anyone with half an idea can lock that idea down and exclude others from it. That would actually cut across the kind of innovation, the kind of inventiveness, that we need in our economy today.
So, look, whilst I absolutely commend any idea which encourages small businesses, which looks to encourage new ideas, weâve got to be very cautious indeed before we have a framework which allows others to exclude knowledge. So, yes, patents are necessaryâweâre always here to look at these ideas. The National Party did have an opportunity to do this in the last term when they in fact reviewed the Patents Act, but they clearly didnât think that this was a good idea.
So to the member, I commend you for having this bill drawn. I commend you for your hard work on itâI know youâve done a lot of hard workâbut we donât see this as good policy for New Zealand, and we wonât support it. Thank you, Madam Assistant Speaker.
I call Parmjeet Parmarâfive minutes in reply.
Thank you, Madam Assistant Speaker. To say that I am disappointed to see the Governmentâs stance on my memberâs bill would be an understatement, because Iâm disappointed on so many levels. Itâs not only because they are not supporting my memberâs bill; itâs also because they donât even understand what my memberâs bill is about.
As soon as I saw that it was Minister Iain Lees-Galloway who took the first call on my bill, I knew that no one wanted to front up and say that they donât support this bill, because this bill is about supporting small and medium enterprises having this tool of intellectual property rights, and heâs the Minister who has publicly said that he doesnât care about the survival of small and medium enterprises if they fail because of his policies. So why would they support this bill that is to support small and medium enterprises to support incremental advancements?
I wrote to so many Ministers. Yes, in the Labour Party, I wrote to so many Ministers. I wrote to some members in the New Zealand First Party. I also wrote to members in the Green Party. And did they give me even two minutes to talk about this bill? No. That is how they treat their colleagues. I want to acknowledge one Green Party member, Gareth Hughes, who I had not originally approached, but, because of his interest, I got to talk to him. So, yes, at least he was interested, and he was interested in engaging and having this discussion.
So even if members had listened to my contribution at the start of the first reading, they would have understood what this bill is about. There is no international consistency when it comes to a second-tier patent system. Then they would not have sounded so shallow and would not have embarrassed themselves and embarrassed the whole House.
I want to give this example from the Hon Iain Lees-Gallowayâs contribution. Iain Lees-Galloway used the example of the Netherlands and he, like the member before, Duncan Webb, used the example of Australia as well. So in that contribution, the Hon Iain Lees-Galloway said that âAs is common in most second-tier patent systems, there was no examination for novelty and an inventive step at the patent office. The unexamined six-year patents created legal uncertainty to competitors.â Exactlyâso there was no examination required in their legislation and no examination required in the legislation that Australia is going through different phases on, but my bill is different. Thereâs a big difference, because my bill requires examinationâexamination is compulsory. I donât know if Government members even understand what that means, because they kept giving examples of countries that didnât require examination. So this is a big difference, and thatâs why I say to Government members that they should have read my bill.
One Government member mentioned a company that is lobbying them not to support my bill, and, yes, I visited that company, and that was before the first reading of this bill started. They told me they are not going to support my bill and theyâre going to lobby Government members. And, yes, I want to commend that company for their great work, because their job is to protect their interest and they have done well. But what is the job of a Government? A Governmentâs job is to look after all small, medium, and large businessesâlook after the whole country. So what they have allowed here is for one company to dictate a public policyâtheyâve allowed one company to dictate a public policy. That is dangerousâthat is dangerous. Who is looking after the rest of New Zealand? Not this Governmentânot this Government. Thatâs the level of shallowness we have from Government members.
Yes, this is an important tool that is required for small and medium enterprises so that they have intellectual property rights so that other people donât go out and copy their ideas, but Government members donât understand that, because for each and every policy area they have working groups to advise them. This is too complicated for them. So they didnât even bother reading my bill and understanding, and kept giving examples which are not even relevant.
So, at the end, I want to acknowledge my National Party colleagues for their understanding of my passion in this area. I want to especially acknowledge the Hon Chris Finlayson for all the discussions I had with him after my bill was drawn, and I also want to acknowledge all patent attorneys in New Zealand and Australia for their engagement on this bill since this bill was drawn. I want to give special acknowledgment to Grant Shoebridge from Shelston IP for his contribution. And, yes, I am disappointed. Thank you.
đŁď¸ Spoke in this debate (3)
- Parmjeet Parmar (New Zealand National Party â List Member)
- Dr Duncan Webb (New Zealand Labour Party â Member for Christchurch Central)
- Hon Poto Williams (New Zealand Labour Party â Member for Christchurch East)