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Thursday, 30 July 2015

Points of Order — Tabling of Documents—Question No. 1 to Minister, 29 July

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🗣️ Speech Hon Ron Mark (New Zealand First Party — List Member)
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I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. I have taken your advice, Mr Assistant Speaker. I have gone to the record and pulled down the Hansard for the day in question regarding the point of order that I raised earlier. There is no mention at all in Hansard of the comment from the Speaker saying “Shut up, Winston.”, contrary to what you thought might be the case. I am going to ask again for the leave of the House to table the transcript from 29 July, question No. 1, where Mr Speaker of the House said—

🗣️ Speech Lindsay Tisch (New Zealand National Party — Member for Waikato)
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No, no—I have heard enough. I have sought advice, and I refer the member to McGee, page 54, which says: “Nor can the Speaker be attacked, except by a direct motion of censure of which notice has been given. Any statement in the House reflecting on the Speaker either directly or indirectly is out of order;”—[Interruption] I am quoting from here and this is the ruling I am giving—“a suggestion of partiality on the part of the Speaker or any other occupant of the chair may constitute a contempt of the House. Accusations against the Speaker that reflect on the Speaker in that capacity or in respect of an office held by the Speaker ex officio … may also constitute a contempt.” Mr Mark, there are measures that you can follow. I am not prepared to accept leave to table that document. I have sought advice and that is the end of the matter. There are other avenues available to you.

💬 Ron Mark: Point of order—

The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch): Well, if you are going to relitigate what I have already said, Mr Mark—as I said, this is a serious matter.

💬 Ron Mark: It is a point of clarification. I was not aware of that ruling.

The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch): Well, I have just quoted it—[Interruption] Order! [Interruption] Order, members! I have given you the page number, and I suggest you seek advice on it. I have sought advice. There are also some Speakers’ rulings that you might like to look at. There are Speakers’ rulings 165/1 and 165/2. I have ruled on the matter and that is the end. We are moving on and I am calling Catherine Delahunty—5 minutes.

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